Transforming from Within: Tracy Litt on Identity Evolution

What happens when you stop betraying yourself and let your true self lead? Tracy Litt—founder of the School of Becoming, bestselling author, and emotional healer—shares how transforming your identity at the level of your nervous system unlocks lasting change.  From single motherhood on food stamps to building a seven-figure personal development company, Tracy’s journey began with a breakdown that became a breakthrough. She surrendered, tuned into her highest self, and discovered that true transformation begins in the body—not just the mind.

Tracy unpacks how we’ve been conditioned to avoid our emotions instead of feeling them. “Emotion is energy in motion,” she says. “You were built to feel.” Reconnecting to our bodies allows us to stop performing and start living authentically.  If you’re standing at the edge of change but fear is holding you back, this episode offers powerful reframes. Tracy reminds us: fear is a green light, not a stop sign. And if they don’t want you? You don’t need them.

This conversation is your permission slip to release people-pleasing, regulate your nervous system, and embrace the more you’ve been searching for.

About Tracy Litt:  Tracy Litt is the founder of The School of Becoming ™, an international best-selling author, podcast host, science and spirituality teacher, and emotional healer. Tracy also holds her licensing in professional coaching, neurology, somatics, and hypnotherapy.

Her revolutionary institute, The School of Becoming®, integrates consciousness, neuroscience, healing, and energetics to help their students evolve into the next level version of themselves. It all starts with the core curriculum, identity-evolution methodology, Mind Magic®.  Connect with Tracy:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-school-of-becoming/id1533276485 theschoolofbecoming.com Instagram: @thetracylitt Instagram: @the_schoolofbecoming Facebook: @thelittfactor

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Chapters

• 1:57 Meeting Tracy Litt
• 4:37 Tracy's Dark Night of the Soul
• 11:51 From VP to Finding Her Calling
• 20:42 The Power of Authenticity
• 37:43 Nervous System and Identity Evolution
• 49:52 Community Questions on Self-Worth
• 59:51 Final Wisdom and Card Pull

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:59

Welcome back to the Pure Possibilities podcast. I have a special treat for you today. Tracy Litt is joining us on today's episode and you will feel the magic that exudes from her in this beautiful conversation that we have. I had the pleasure of seeing her not too long ago person in Florida at a retreat and this woman holds you like nothing I've ever experienced. When she hugs you, you just feel so loved and supported and it's one of the most beautiful experiences I've ever had.

Speaker 1: 1:49

Tracy Litt is the founder of the School of Becoming, an international bestselling author, podcast host, science and spirituality teacher and emotional healer. Tracy also holds her licensing in professional coaching, neurology, somatics and hypnotherapy. Her revolutionary institute, the School of Becoming, integrates consciousness, neuroscience, healing and energetics to help their students evolve into the next level version of themselves. It all starts with the core curriculum identity, evolution methodology, mind magic. It all starts with the core curriculum identity, evolution methodology, mind magic. In every experience the school of becoming delivers women experience a depth of love, connection and community that is unparalleled. As Tracy States, community is the medicine.

Speaker 1: 2:45

Tracy's own journey from a single mother on food stamps to vice president of human resources, to CEO and founder of a seven-figure personal growth company fuels her passion for ensuring that everyone knows that who they've been is zero indication of who they are capable of becoming. Her podcast, the School of Becoming, is in season three and can be streamed on all major platforms. She has graced the TEDx stage with her talk titled Dear Fear, it's Not you, it's Me. Her self-help book Worthy Human was an international bestseller in 2019, and Tracy was named a top 125 global thought leader of 2022 in Success Magazine.

Speaker 1: 3:21

Tracy Litt's unwavering commitment to elevating visionary leaders and facilitating their incredible transformations has made her a force to be reckoned with in the world of personal development and holistic success. With her unique blend of science, spirituality, emotional healing and compassion, tracy guides her clients in unlocking their unlimited potential and creating a lasting impact on the world. I have experienced this firsthand and, with Tracy's guidance, I have been stepping in to the next level of myself, and I am so thankful to be certified as a neuro identity evolution practitioner, and I truly, truly hope you enjoy today's episode. Let's dive in. Hi, it's so good to see you.

Speaker 1: 4:18

How are you Amazing, and I've been so looking forward to this conversation me too me too. It was so wonderful to spend time with you a few weeks ago. Same same. You fill my heart every time. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2: 4:36

I received that and I let it all the way in. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank. I love being with you, celebrating you, and I'm just elated for what you're on the brink of here and what you're doing and how much I see myself in you. Really, oh yeah, leaping out of my job, being afraid, doubling down, saying yes, taking all the risk, trusting myself, but even more so, ignorance was bliss and just doing it, and you know what I mean, like allowing it to do and trusting the universe, and trusting that if I followed my calling in my heart that the universe was always going to take care of it.

Speaker 1: 5:21

Absolutely, and that is you to me. Thank you, yeah, thank you. It's funny. You came into my experience through Kathy and the first time I heard you speak I was like, oh my God, this is what's missing from. Like this is my missing piece. Like I've been doing all these things and shifting my identity at the level of my nervous system, I was like, oh my God, that's, that's what I need. Like that, you're what I need.

Speaker 2: 5:56

Thank, you, thank you, thank you, thank you. And it's incredible because I get to be the like through way, right, but it's like the work is what you need, and then you honored that and now you get to take that work out. That's what makes it so outrageous and so exciting, because you are the billboard, which is the same thing for me. I am the billboard. I'm in the work again right now. I just dropped a podcast episode. Definitely go listen to it, cause I was like, holy shit, I saw more. My hyper-independence came creeping back in my this, my that. I was like, oh my God, thank God, I know how to do the work, thank God.

Speaker 1: 6:31

Thank God, exactly, exactly. I guess maybe we should back up a little bit, because I don't, my listeners don't necessarily know much about you, and so if you could maybe take us back a little bit to how did you even put all of this together?

Speaker 2: 6:50

Oh my God, yes definitely, so where would you like me to begin? What is your question?

Speaker 1: 6:57

Let's go back to. You were a single mom and you have a story of being on your floor and your daughter and being on food stamps and what happened there that caused you to, I guess, realize that something you had like a dark night of the soul moment, and it shifted everything for you. And then you went on to create such a beautiful, beautiful methodology that you're sharing with the world, and I'm so grateful to be able to do that as well, being certified under you. And you know where did it come from? Like neuroscience, energetic somatics, like bringing it all together.

Speaker 2: 7:46

Okay, this is so beautiful and it there's so many parts of the journey that I get to share. Um, because nothing and no one is an overnight success, right? So that initial dark night of the soul and I say initial cause I've got to enjoy a few in my life so far uh was when? So I was pregnant and also building a home with who I thought I was going to be with for the rest of my life, and the house and Taylor were both due within like a week of each other. So there's like a lot of intensity, like is the house going to be ready or is she going to come? You know, she came a week before the house was ready and then we moved into the house and, at eight months old, this man that I thought was the man looked at me and said I don't love you anymore and this is over Now.

Speaker 2: 8:43

What's interesting and important about this is there was a nudge in me that was telling me that he wasn't it, where I was ignoring red flags, where I was trying so hard to squeeze around hole into a square peg. So, even though it was extremely painful to hear that, there was also another part of me that was like oh, I remember the first thought I had was are you fucking kidding me? You don't love me anymore? Like I'm sorry, what Like that? You know what I mean. Like I was like wait a second. And then this knowing of like you knew that this wasn't right yeah, you would have tolerated it. That this wasn't right yeah, it would have tolerated it. So I was able to, in that really interesting moment, feel the depth of the pain and the despair because I have an eight month old literally in the other room, yeah, and also the oh shit, this is highest good, because if he didn't pull the trigger, I don't think I ever would have.

Speaker 1: 9:44

And that's an important thing.

Speaker 2: 9:45

I feel that, yeah, I feel that you know what I mean, which is also part of that started opening me up to highest good and understanding that, wait, the universe does have my back and there is something that is doing some divine orchestration that's bigger than me, and I was like, okay, wait a minute. Right, there's like almost like this feeling of, uh, I finally have a sense that I understand there's something helping me out here and I need to move a bit more into surrender with that. Yeah, and that kind of started to this is I've never shared this before that started to open my relationship to spirit and open my relationship to the energy that I am. That was like the beginning, little like oh, someone cracked a window. That feels amazing, what's that? So then I ended up having the dark night of my soul.

Speaker 2: 10:36

When it was, you know, Taylor was crying and I couldn't take it anymore and I my limit of stress and I'm also a breastfeeding new mother and you know all of these external variables that were very real and taxing on my capacity, and I went into the garage to basically cry my face off in despair, right, because, turning off the monitor, I could still hear from the other side of the house and if you have had a child, you know that feeling when you're just like I can't, just just stop, I can't, I don't even, I can't even listen to you to make sure you're safe. I just cannot listen to this one more second. Um, and when I walked into the garage like it always comes right back when I tell this um, it was like, uh, it was a movie. It was a movie. I like fell to the floor and just cried and shook and sobbed and wailed and and in this, like I surrender this, like I got nothing, like do something because I don't know what the fuck to do. Yeah, and that was the first time that I heard or sensed that it wasn't like an actual voice, but like it was a voice that I heard through my body, where my she came right. You and I know the she because you're at work, right, this elevated, highest self version of me. That was like almost like showing up for the humanness and being like yo, absolutely fucking not. And the message was essentially you are either going to stay a victim of your life and this is what it's going to feel like or you are going to make some drastic, drastic changes and decisions for that little girl that's inside that house and create an entirely new experience and in that moment it was like it's like. I know this didn't actually happen, but energetically, meaning it didn't materialistically happen, it didn't tangibly happen, but energetically and spiritually. It was literally like I was like, okay, and I like she put her hand down and I put my hand in her hand, she picked me up off the floor and it was the moment where I was like, well, then you lead, Because clearly I can't be left to my own devices. And that was the beginning of what would she do, which I wasn't even aware of, Because who I became was 12 years later. So that was like. It was like seed planted, got it. So that's what I started to do.

Speaker 2: 13:30

I found an incredible job, which, by the way, so I was on food stamps with Taylor, right. Then I find this job and I remember it was in recruiting, like placement, right, and it was a $40,000 a year draw. Okay, now, what that means is we're going to give you 40K a year, but it's on a draw. So if you don't cover it with the placements that you make in recruitment, then you owe us money. Holy shit, Uh-huh, but that's what a draw is. But if you meet your draw, then you start to make commission on anything on top of it, Right? So it was like it was like a loan, a 40 K a year, basically Right, Okay, Right. And I was like, yes, I'll take it, because that's what she said to do.

Speaker 2: 14:22

And through the course of doing that, I ended up doing really well at it. I became the top salesperson in the recruitment firm. I grew into being the director of recruitment for my team. I moved us out of that area. I started to build this life right. I moved us down to another city you know Taylor's thriving all because I really just let her lead and I was like go go. You know Taylor's thriving all because I really just let her lead and I was like, go, go, go. And the other important thing to say here is I was fully in my masculine. I was fully, fully in that. Like I cannot feel. This is not about receivership, this is not about allowance, this is not about any of it. This is about keep your fucking head down, shut your heart off and go and build something for her. And it worked really well until it didn't. So I now became a VP of human resources and now it's 12 years after that first thing that I just said and my soul is like erupting. Right, I was.

Speaker 2: 15:24

I had hit the point that I thought, once I hit this point, everything's going to be great. Right, I make phenomenal money. I'm just making six figures. I own my townhouse. I was working from home, I had a car, I have my daughter. I have a wonderful life. They love me. I love them. There are zero issues, zero issues. There was no problem present other than the awareness that kept intensifying that my soul was like what are you doing? You are slowly dying inside, Right, and it was like this. It was like she was back, but in a guttural, deep gnawing kind of way. You're meant for more. So I start to research, like, okay, well, if I'm meant for more, what does that even look like? Where am I going? Where am I going? I don't even know what that means. So I start researching and this is 2015.

Speaker 2: 16:17

Now, 2014,. I start researching because it took me two years to pull the trigger and I was in coaching school in 2016. I stumbled upon human growth and potential and I was like what is this land? You know that feeling because you're obsessed with it and this is your calling too. So once you hit it, you're literally like what. There's a whole world, there's a whole industry of people answering their calling. They're helping other people, you know, raise their consciousness and heal and be in their power and have peak performance and success and spirituality.

Speaker 2: 16:52

And I was like I was losing my mind. I was like, okay, clearly, this is it. So I found the coaching school I wanted to go to and I gas braked myself for two years, two whole years. I'm doing this. No, I'm not. On a Monday I'd be telling a friend. And then on Tuesday I'd be like who the fuck do you think you are? What if it's too much of a risk? And on Wednesday I'd be like I am going to do this. And on Thursday I would be like what if people judge you and you suck? And I did this whole vacillation for two entire years until I had another night on a patio on the beach and I was sitting on the balcony and it was pitch dark, except the white caps of the ocean and the sound, that gorgeous sound of the ocean as the tide is in and out, and in and out.

Speaker 2: 17:37

And in that silence, there she was again and the message was you cannot die like this and you're not going to get out alive anyway. Let's fucking go, that's powerful.

Speaker 2: 17:53

It was like, right, and now you hear it because you're asking such a profound question that I've never answered in this kind of timeline before. This is the work. So the work started, the methodology, the work started to create itself through me, unbeknownst to me. Right, that was the coolest part of it. Yeah, I was like which is like it was given to me, like this is not my. I'm the vessel that is receiving this experience to lead me to this methodology, this work in the world.

Speaker 2: 18:26

So I enrolled in the coaching school, finally, four months later, manifest the layoff from that VP job because you know, the universe loves us and, uh, launched the company and it's been, you know, snowball ever since. But one of the things I committed to myself when I did finally pull the trigger on going to coaching school was my actual thought was I'm not the only person that's experiencing this. And how is it possible that I can be pumped, excited and like I am doing this while simultaneously being paralyzed? How is that possible that we get so ready and we're like, yes, and then we do nothing? And I said I'm going to figure this out, I'm going to crack this code, because if I'm experiencing it, a gazillion other women are experiencing it. And that's when, outside of my coaching certification, I started studying on my own fear and risk and risk perception and the biology of fear and the nervous system, and I was like, oh my God. And then, from there, the methodology started to get created.

Speaker 1: 20:27

That is so beautiful and so relatable. I mean, fear paralyzes us and I used to go through that. Oh, just feel the fear and do it's okay to allow the tears to flow. And I think you had recently said you know the, the tears are healing you like it's healing? Yes, yes, and and people don't allow themselves to feel?

Speaker 2: 21:14

No, no, they don't, and it's not their fault. It's because their nervous system feels so unsafe feeling. It's because of their program, their conditioning, the imprint of their nervous system. You know, all driven by experiences and what was modeled for them and the society at large and the perpetuation of good, bad, right, wrong. You know emotion is weakness, you know we don't want to express ourselves.

Speaker 2: 21:39

Censorship, oppression, I mean, it could go on for days and that's why our work right now it's our work, because you are certified in it is so vital. It's so vital because there's just so much misinformation and garbage circling around. It's like no, no, no, no, no. That's not actually the truth, right? The truth is is that emotion is neutral, it's energy in motion. You were built to feel and you can create that safety in your system to slowly but very surely become someone who feels safe to emote, to express, to feel, and in doing so, you finally clean and cleanse the stress that's been stuck in your body for so long. That's perpetuating the dysregulation, perpetuating the insecurity and perpetuating all of the things that are driving you the most crazy. The answer lives inside of your ability to express and feel.

Speaker 1: 22:38

So good, that's so good I am four weeks into my first group and, uh, it's magnificent, the the changes and the transformations and the feeling that are already coming up for these women Like it's. I so feel the importance of you putting this out and sharing it with us so that we can share with the world Like it's absolutely life-changing, absolutely life-changing.

Speaker 2: 23:15

Thank you, it truly is. It truly is. It always works. Our work works 100% of the time, absolutely life-changing from now. I was her OG, I went through it first. It's just so incredible and I say that for you so you can also see the expansiveness of what you're being called into and what you're capable of and the mark that you are here to make in the world to serve a group, an audience, a community that only uniquely you can, because they need Shannon's resonance Right and your unique experience. So, beautiful soul, if you're listening to me, you need to message Shannon and get into whatever her next cohort is, because the work is magical and she's magical.

Speaker 1: 24:15

Thank you, you're welcome. It's true, I received that fully. So what would you say really holds people back from stepping into even doing the work and opening themselves up to? So let me backtrack a little bit. So my cohort is called more, because what if there's more and more love, more joy, more peace, more abundance and people feel so stuck and there is more, and what if you're the more that you've been searching for?

Speaker 2: 24:56

I hope that tagline is somewhere. What if you are, the more you've been searching.

Speaker 1: 25:00

It is Okay, continue yeah get out of their way, to open themselves up to even stepping down this path. I mean, I've listened to all my little nudges and those have led me beautifully down this path. And then I got to the point where I was like I know that there's more, I know there's something else here. I know that I am capable of so much more than I'm allowing. And then you came into my experience. It can be so difficult to see people holding themselves back and doing that gas break and not even necessarily knowing what's out there for them. How do you help to shift that?

Speaker 2: 26:15

help to shift that?

Speaker 2: 26:17

Such a beautiful question.

Speaker 2: 26:19

So one of the parts of the answer is you prioritize your growth, you stay embodied and you allow yourself to be the expander, not being concerned of who you are modeling for or who may or may not be paying attention, but the knowing that, at the level of the rise of collective consciousness, it takes each individual person elevating their consciousness to impact the collective.

Speaker 2: 26:50

So you are doing deep, deep contribution work, like please hear this you are doing deep, deep legacy work, contribution to our new world, to the generations that you're healing before you, to the generations that are coming after you, by choosing to go within and evolve. And that is where it all starts, because that becomes the ripple effect, the example, the modeling that you don't know who's paying attention, but watching you embody your fullest expression, right and show up and all these beautiful things that drips on them in a beautiful way. So don't underestimate that. Your biggest priority is your contribution by you staying committed to your own evolution, is your contribution by you staying committed to your own evolution. And then the other pieces. It's really like there's just two little steps.

Speaker 1: 27:52

Decide and get a guide. Beautiful, yes, right, decide and get a guide.

Speaker 2: 27:57

I didn't even mean to rhyme that, but you know we're doing your. You, you said some magical things, so I'm saying some magical things, you decide and you get a guide. And when I say decide, like you have to decide, because you're either going to evolve because you decided and you chose it, or the universe is going to throw you some catalysts. Right, there's going to be disease, there's going to be divorce, there's going to be loss, there's going to be that burnout, there's going to be something that you hit that's like fuck, final, okay, fine, right, you don't need to have a hands up in the air moment to decide. You could, like you beautifully said, because you gave an answer to there were nudges, right, little things along the path and I went, okay, okay, okay, okay, right, because you, you were allowing yourself to trust the innate guidance not even the other human guidance, but the innate guidance to be like okay, right, so that's part of this answer too, you're, you're getting those little like let's call them like mini catalyst moments like psst, psst, psst, and if you ignore them, that's when the catalyst gets bigger and harsher. Or you could just go okay and just, you know, take a step to the side with that nudge and then take the next step and the next step. But once you decide like, actually, then take the next step in the next step.

Speaker 2: 29:21

But once you decide like, actually, you are making a decision to cut yourself off from everything other than what you decided, and we and we get a guide, because no one evolves alone, don't even I know everyone. You think, oh, you're gonna yes, great, buy the books, I enjoy it all, have a this, have a that, but you're not self-help. I think is the most like counterintuitive thing in the world. There's no self in it. You're not alone doing this and you won't be able to successfully do it or sustain it, because you need someone number one who is skilled, need someone number one who is skilled. You need someone who understands and is fully regulated and grounded within themselves to understand what holding you is about. You need someone to reflect back your blind spots. You need someone to not believe the litany of stories that you're spinning out. In right, we need guidance and it's part of allowing ourselves to be supported. Yeah, so that's what we do.

Speaker 1: 30:24

It's interesting. The timing of this is amazing because so I started the year off with a mini series called feeling your way into the new year Cause I don't buy into the whole resolution thing. It drives me crazy and then now we're doing a mini series called Unapologetically you. I love that, because learning how to express and show up as our true, authentic selves is such a beautiful thing. You are one of the absolutely most authentic people I have ever come in contact with. Thank you, and you're just so real and I love that. I love that and it's such a, it's so warming to my heart to just know that. I mean, I spent so much time pretending to be who I thought people wanted me to be and through learning this methodology and embodying it and just learning how to truly just be, just be, just be, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:35

It is so easy when you're authentic. Yeah Right, like, I think that's an important point. It's so easy when you're authentic because all the things that are energy sucking and draining they don't exist, because you're not doing mental gymnastics and contortionist, staying and wondering who you need to be or how you need to be, or do I say this thing or don't I say this thing. The authenticity I'm having, like an epiphany right now.

Speaker 2: 32:11

Authenticity, let me say it this way. Let me say it this way the absence of authenticity, the opposite of authenticity, which is contortionist in calculation, overthinking it, you know, pretending, to use your word, posturing, positioning, whatever keeps you in your head and keeps you out of your body, and keeps you out of your body. Being authentic means being fully expressed in every moment, at any moment, all the time, in the truth of what you are and who you are, which promotes you being in your body, because there's never a time where I'm thinking about what I'm saying, or what I'm doing, or how I'm doing it, or who's around, or who's going to take it personally, or how that's going to go, or it's. It's so easy, it's such freedom.

Speaker 1: 33:14

Absolutely, absolutely, because we the energy that goes into performing for other people is exhausting. That path is worthy.

Speaker 2: 33:24

That path is important, essential. And then when you've done the work right, the work that we do, then you're just like oh, this is it. I can simply show up and all of whatever is my expression at the moment and not need to think at all. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 34:01

Yeah, yeah, and the fact that that is possible for people, yes, and they don't necessarily even realize it. Correct. Several years ago, I was in customer service for several years and my son had come into my work one day and I was having a conversation with a guest and he says who is that Like? What's that voice, mom? I was like, well, that's my customer service voice, which was entertaining to me at the time. But then, when I met you, one of the things that you said is identity evolution is integrating, being who you are within your like, in all the ways, wherever you are. And that really hit me, cause I was like I'm being this person at work and I'm being this person at home, and I'm being and, and that's that's why we need to evolve.

Speaker 2: 34:54

It's a recipe for burnout and depletion.

Speaker 1: 34:57

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 34:57

Right Like. Think about all of those versions. It's like no, you get authenticity and integrity as being exactly who you are, no matter who's around and what environment you're in.

Speaker 1: 35:09

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 35:10

Right, because you're whole and you're enough, so you don't need to be anything different than the truth of what you are Right be anything different than the truth of what you are Right.

Speaker 1: 35:21

So could you explain a little bit about the reason behind regulating our nervous system and evolving at the evolving our identity at the level of our nervous system, why that is so important?

Speaker 2: 35:29

Yes, I love this question. Thank you for asking it. So your identity is the cornerstone of your reality, because your identity holds your belief structure, your worldviews, your thought processes, your neuro tags, your behaviors, your actions, the words that you choose, the energy that you emit. Right, it's like that's everything rolled into your identity and that's the cornerstone of your reality and your nervous system is the command center of the identity. So, understanding that to evolve our identity in a way where we actively and actually become different, right, like sustainably different, like whoa, I feel different, I look different.

Speaker 2: 36:11

And I'm not talking about looking different because you lost 30 pounds, but something that blows my mind consistently, that I had no idea was a thing, was how are the women in our world like they were looking different? I'm like why is it different? This isn't a weight loss program. This isn't a right like. This isn't a plastic surgery program. How is that? Because when you change at the level of your nervous system, you're changing cellularly, right. So it's like if you had a big whether it's breath, work or shaking or different mechanisms of somatics, you actually let go of shit and then things clear up and you appear lighter. And it just blows my mind because of that physical change. I don't remember why I said that, but it came through anyway. So, because the identity is the cornerstone and the nervous system is the command center of the identity, we work at the level of the nervous system because if we don't, it will prohibit the evolution, because the nervous system is here for your survival and when you start to change, it immediately perceives it's not safe. And when it perceives it's not safe, it interferes with your fear response, with self-doubt, with distraction, with blank brain, with lack of clarity, with perfectionism, with control, with ways that stress shows up for you. And if you're not aware of how the nervous system works and how to re imprint it along the way and bring it the safety that it needs, the evolution, the actual transformation, will never occur.

Speaker 2: 37:55

And when I say transformation, like it means deep. If you're not in the depths of it, if you're not working at the level of your nervous system, then everything you're doing is topical, it's surface oriented, which is why it often leaves people in the like I know this at the level of their cognition. But they're not knowing like they know that they're not embodying it, they're not being it, they're not practicing it Right. So that's why I love our work, because it's such a game changer Cause. Then all of a sudden, you're like oh, because what is cognitive is the smallest percentage of the change. Right? If cognition was where it's at, cbt would have worked, which is cognitive behavioral therapy, and everybody who went to therapy every Friday for 16 years would have been different. But it doesn't work if your intent is actual transformation.

Speaker 1: 38:51

Well, and that kind of goes along with how you, like you cognitively and consciously know that you want to make a change, but then subconsciously we're like, nope, that's not happening, that's not happening. So I was shocked when I had originally heard that we live 95% in our subconscious. Yeah, that blew my mind.

Speaker 2: 39:15

Yeah, yeah, those habits and the programming and and all of that lives like for, for, for, like a simple moment of like, okay, got it. All of that lives in the body, the subconscious, the nervous system. That's the body, the consciousness, the cognition. That's the mind, right, which is why we have we work in the body right, because that's when we're really working at the level of the nervous system, complimented with the cognition. Because then as you think differently because it's a bottom up process, right, it's bottom up, not top down. So then, as you're working with your nervous system, you're working with your body, which means you're working with your subconscious and you're doing reprogramming work then when you do consciously choose to think differently, as we know to do, then it only deepens it and it helps support the change.

Speaker 2: 40:05

So it's also important to know it's not the absence of mindset. I think people are now bastardizing mindset. Mindset is really important and it's a really critical part, because thoughts do generate your reality. It's just recognizing that mindset work that doesn't include the body is incomplete, that's all yeah, right, but don't let mindset work be wrong, because it's not, it just needs some support.

Speaker 1: 40:32

Absolutely so. When we're getting into our body, how would you know that you've fully felt whatever you're feeling?

Speaker 2: 40:44

Meaning. How do you know you're done feeling what needs to be felt? Yes, what's interesting about this question and I get this question a lot, which I love the mind wants an answer, and when we ask that question, we're thinking about the question and we're like so how will I know how, right, which? Exactly? There you go. That's the answer. The mind has no business in the emotion, right, like, leave the mind out of it.

Speaker 2: 41:13

So, and what's interesting about that too, is that becomes such a mechanism of, like, keeping the, you know, the mind interfering, because when we do start to emote, right, meaning, allow the energy to move, because emotion is energy, emotion is pull you out of your body and put you back into your mind, where you've been for at least four decades, depending on how old you are, because that's how we're all raised to be, until we realize the truth. And in, when it pulls out of the mind, it's like okay, no, no, no, no, no. What it just did was it pulled you out of your body, took you out of the processing, took you out of the energy and motion into analysis, right Into. Am I done? How do I am I done feeling? How do I know if I'm it's? It's a body-based thing, you'll just know.

Speaker 2: 42:03

And it won't be trusting correct and it won't be because your mind's like you're done now. It's just like when the motion stops motioning, you're done. You know, I don't know. You know that like for me, like if I'm crying or shaking or whatever, at some point in the expression, there's nothing else being expressed, it's just it's done. Whenever the fuck it's done, it's done.

Speaker 1: 42:43

Your body just knows yeah and your mind doesn't need to know yeah, the mind.

Speaker 2: 42:47

The mind is the trap.

Speaker 1: 42:49

The mind is the trap. Yeah, I think people often want to know why am I feeling the way I'm feeling? And it's like you don't need to fucking know why you're feeling it, you just need to feel it.

Speaker 2: 42:58

Yes and recognizing that when the question, when we start to move into analysis over energy being in motion right and over feeling, just take a moment and take a breath and say no, thank you, and get right back down into your body, because the analysis is a mechanism to pull you out of the body, to pull you out of the processing, especially when your nervous system imprint which every single woman I've ever loved and served is until she does the work, and it's not Because nobody was raised in an emotionally liberal household, because that makes no sense to our forefathers and our foremothers. When the analysis occurs, you just get to recognize oh, this is a safety mechanism. When the mind is trying to get involved whilst emoting, then you remember oh, okay, if the mind is here, it's here because my nervous system is perceiving it's not safe for me to feel this all the way through or rage at this level or process in this way, and then you direct it. That's the other beautiful thing of our work right, you are actually more powerful than all of it, nervous system included, when you understand how it works and you understand how to love it, you understand how to re-imprint it and you understand how to give it safety. You're the director. Don't abdicate your power and you understand how to give it safety. You're the director. Don't abdicate your power.

Speaker 2: 44:19

And you can, you know, take your mind back offline, spend a little bit more time relating to the body, allow it to process a little bit more. Oh, there's the mind trying to analyze. No, thank you, no, thank you. And and doing all of the different somatic work and most important being relating to your body. Right, like. It's also interesting because I'll have a lot of people say but I've been doing somatics, why did this work? Now, well, two things. If you've been doing somatics, your system's getting perpetually is the only word I can think of right now. I'm safer, and safer as you do any kind of somatic work, because you're not an active relationship with the body, like talking to your body, giving your body attention, paying attention to it, being with it.

Speaker 2: 45:06

It's one thing to do a beautiful somatic practice like breath work or oming, but if you're not in an active relationship with with your body, it oftentimes doesn't click through like I'm talked to my body all the time. Right, I talked to it for nourishment, for safety, for answers, just being in relationship, like oh hi, hi body, right the work, hi body. I love you buddy. Thank you, buddy. What do you need? Body? And it's such an emotional thing because your body was built to feel and emotion is energy in motion. So when you start to get intimate with the body, it's almost like it's saying thank you, I was built to feel but I've been stuck here Like, literally like the tin man, and now you're back and you're relating to me and I was built to feel.

Speaker 2: 46:08

And everyone gets emotional when we guide a little, relate to the body, beautiful moment of conversation and it's like and then the mind why am I crying? Why am I feeling? Why am I crying right now, while I'm simply relating to the body? Because your body was built to feel but you've been prohibiting it from feeling your whole existence. So the energy emotion is like oh my god, is this our moment? Is this our moment?

Speaker 1: 46:27

oh, she's back yeah, I love that because we have been trained, I guess, and programmed to be so disconnected, and when you really do allow yourself to feel and be with yourself, it's magical, it is truly magical.

Speaker 2: 46:51

It is, and connection is what we all crave and deserve, and there is no connection without the connection to yourself.

Speaker 1: 46:58

Yes.

Speaker 2: 47:00

We think we can satisfy it with yet another external variable like another human. But don't get it twisted your depth of connection with another person will only go as deep and real as the depth of connection you have with yourself.

Speaker 1: 47:16

I really feel that I had spent a lot of years looking outside of myself for all of my happiness, and that was what started me down my path, and it truly, truly is within us and how we connect with ourselves and be with ourselves. I've been experiencing a lot of that recently. I'm like I'm just going to allow myself to just be in a fun and do the things that feel good and take all the pressure off of myself and just allow things to unfold as they're meant to. Yeah yeah, so I have a community on Facebook for the podcast and I said I'm going to be interviewing Tracy and do you have any questions that you would like to ask? And so I have a couple that I would love to ask you.

Speaker 2: 48:02

I would love to answer them Yay.

Speaker 1: 48:04

Okay. So the first one is what if I lose relationships by being my true self?

Speaker 2: 48:12

Then let them go, because the idea of being okay, betraying yourself to keep relationships with other people is fucking bullshit and unacceptable. Yeah, that's, that's like that. There's no, there's nothing else to it. You're either betraying yourself or you're honoring yourself. And if there are people in your life that aren't going to rally and love you unconditionally for being all of you, whatever that means, they need, they need to get the fuck out of your life yesterday because you're not honoring yourself or your worth, well, yes, let's click that one and make sure we send it across the universe, because that, to me, is like I don't even. Why are we even asking that question?

Speaker 2: 49:03

When I was raising my little sister, because my mother died when I was 24 and she was 15. So I moved in with her and my father because I didn't want her to have the absence of a maternal figure. I didn't want her to have the absence of a maternal figure and she was struggling with some inclusion stuff at school and I remember I said to her and she said it's probably the thing that rings the truest for her now she's going to be 40 this year. I said to her and I would say it every night when I would like be with her and cuddle and talk. If they don't want you, you don't need them. They don't want you, you don't need them. They don't want you, you don't need them, period. If they don't want you in the you that you are, you don't need them.

Speaker 1: 49:48

That's it. Yeah, that is it. You're right. That's the end of it.

Speaker 2: 49:52

End of statement. There's nothing else to discuss.

Speaker 1: 49:54

No no, there's no reason. Yeah, there's no reason. Okay, how do I handle criticism or judgment when I stop seeking approval?

Speaker 2: 50:08

All judgment is self-judgment. So what's interesting is is when you arrive at no longer seeking approval. It means that you've moved into unconditional acceptance and love of yourself, where you are your own approval and inherent in that becomes a. So it actually doesn't matter what anybody thinks, whether they judge, criticize, give feedback, have opinions. It starts to not even occur to you because the solution is in the evolution of that. When you become the version of yourself that is your own approval, you also become the version of yourself that is void of self judgment, which means you stop perceiving judgment from other people and even if someone outright says whatever their opinion is, you're like okay, cool, thanks, bye, like, see you for dinner, like it just doesn't even occur to you because of what it actually means to be your own approval.

Speaker 1: 51:05

Evolution is the evolution.

Speaker 2: 51:08

Yeah, that's another bumper sticker Totally.

Speaker 1: 51:16

Okay, so that goes into the final question that was from the community. Is it possible to ever stop truly caring about what other people think?

Speaker 2: 51:26

Such a great question. At the level of your mind, yes, and at the level of your nervous system, no. And here's what I mean by that. We are wired. We are tribal. The wiring that is our survival wiring was also created at the same time where we needed one another to survive. We needed to stay in our tribes, we needed to stay in our villages in order to have survival.

Speaker 2: 52:04

So it's totally cool and biologically appropriate to have a ping, let's say, of constriction right, or have a little ping right when there is a perspective outside of you or you know someone that you care about has a differing opinion, or something like that. It's totally, totally appropriate to feel that little moment like inside right, and it's momentary and it's primal, and so it's like it's kind of a both end answer. Yes, you can stop caring about what other people think. And at the level of your nervous system, the part of us that need inclusion, that need each other to survive, will always have just a little that's the best way I can describe it. It's just like a little. Just like a little like for just a second of, just, like you know, perceived unsafety in your system, somehow because we need each other to survive.

Speaker 2: 53:04

So if we don't have each other, then what does that mean? And right that just for a sec, beautiful, and then it just goes away because that's not who you are. It's more of an awareness that it's totally cool and appropriate if we feel that little moment, that little ping tightness because we are wired to be in tribes together. Right, the power also lives in, like in your own evolution, recognizing how appropriate that is Right and then not becoming it or not making it bigger than it is, because ultimately, at the like I said, at the level of mind, I don't care what anybody thinks and it's totally biologically appropriate. If something gets presented to me and my nervous system's first response is and then I just work it out, and then I'm like, okay, great, let's keep going, because you're no longer affected by it and you're no longer becoming it.

Speaker 1: 54:09

Yeah, yeah, thank you. You're welcome that you can go through this evolution journey and like everything is perfect and it's wonderful and it's amazing and it is, and we still feel the feelings and we still move through like it's not, like I live this perfect life and nothing ever happens or you don't become like you know, you don't lose your wiring and you don't become this like robotic, untouchable, enlightened being Right, because that would be to deny your humanness and we need both of it.

Speaker 2: 55:07

We need the spiritual energetic being part as much as we need the human experience part, right? That's why we know we are spiritual energetic beings having a human experience, and it is the human experience that allows for the journey of the spirit and the soul. Like. That's the curriculum, that's the workbook. So good, so good.

Speaker 1: 55:35

So what would you? I guess I don't want to say advice necessarily, but what guidance would you offer for someone who's like on the edge of? I know that I need to do something for myself, but I'm afraid and it's scary, but I know that change is needed and I want something more in my life.

Speaker 2: 56:00

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 56:01

What? What would you say to them?

Speaker 2: 56:04

That you're totally appropriate. What you're expressing is gorgeous and normal. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you that if you're feeling the fear, it's the green light to lean in, not a time to pull back. That fear is the indication of like okay, there is something more on the other side of it, and fear is beautiful and appropriate and biological. So I'm not going to be annoyed, I'm going to love it. I'm going to be like thanks for showing up because you're part of my survival, like thanks for showing up because you're part of my survival.

Speaker 2: 56:41

And I would invite you to take action now, because when we wait and you'll learn this, because you get to invest and work with Shannon and the gorgeous work that she is now certified in, one of the things that you'll learn from that is the way fear shows up and what happens when we don't act? Right, when we feel a little pulled and we feel a little nudged and we feel that moment of curiosity and we do nothing, the fear gets more powerful and the mind fuckery quadruples, like self-doubt in a petri dish. Right, but when we act, then things start to shift and change.

Speaker 1: 57:24

Right, because when you move, the universe moves too.

Speaker 2: 57:31

That is the truth.

Speaker 1: 57:32

Yes, yeah it does, yeah, it does. Is there anything else that you would love to share with?

Speaker 2: 57:42

us, uh, your whole, always, inherently, it's part of your birthright. Anything in you that isn't fully supportive of that is the lie. You can create anything, you can become anything. You can experience the emotions that you've been waiting for by realizing the feeling comes first and it comes from you and you're not getting out alive. So stop fucking around and stop sitting on the fence and stop hedging, because one day you'll be taking your last breath and you will have wished because the depth of clarity in that moment you will have wished that you just did the damn thing, because none of it's real and we're all going to die and I say that with joy, yes, because it's the truth, it's the truth, do the damn thing.

Speaker 2: 58:48

Like really what.

Speaker 1: 58:48

Why, why?

Speaker 2: 58:49

Like what you know, just lean the fuck in, yeah, because that's when the magic can happen.

Speaker 1: 58:57

Absolutely yeah. Thank you, Tracy. You're so welcome. I'm so grateful to have you in my life and to be able to have the opportunity and the honor to share your work with the world.

Speaker 2: 59:17

Thank you, I feel the same. I'm so grateful and I'm just here for all of it and to watch you soar and make an even deeper, larger impact than you've already made. The world's lucky, so, thank you. Yeah, wasn't that an?

Speaker 1: 59:30

absolutely beautiful, incredible, wasn't that an absolutely beautiful, incredible, magical conversation. Thank you so much to Tracy for joining us on the show, and we would be incomplete if we didn't pull a card from the Magic of what If card deck. I'm going to pull from volume two today. The decks are available on my website, purepossibilitiespodcastcom. On my website, purepossibilitiespodcastcom. So today's card is what if I am worthy of all the happiness, joy and success that I desire? Oh, what if I'm worthy of all the joy, happiness and success that I desire? You are, we all are. Just take that in. All right, if you would like to connect with Tracy, you can find her at the schoolofbecomingcom, on Instagram at the Tracy Lit, also on Instagram at the underscore school of becoming, on Facebook at the lit factor and on LinkedIn at Tracy lit Lester. Thank you so much for joining us today and I hope you have a beautiful, beautiful day and an amazing week. Much love.