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Rediscovering Your Inner Voice: A Soul-Led Conversation with Julia Christine

Shannon Danielle Episode 89

This week, I’m joined by my dear friend and healer, Julia Christine, for a completely unscripted and soul-led conversation. We explore why connecting with your inner voice matters, how to begin listening again when you’ve tuned it out, and why your emotions are powerful GPS signals guiding you back to your truth. This episode is filled with heartfelt wisdom, grounded practices, and loving reminders that the answers you’re looking for are already within.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back to the Pure Possibilities podcast. Thank you so much for joining us today. This week I have a very special treat for you. My dear friend Julia Christine is joining us and she hasn't been on in a while. But I had a thought yesterday that she might have a message for all of us, and so I reached out and I said hey, would you be willing to come on to the show? So there's no plan, there's no script, it's completely off the cuff, and it ended up being a fun and beautiful, informative conversation. So I hope you enjoy. We are just going to get right to it. Enjoy the show. Hi, hi, how are you? I'm amazing. How are you?

Speaker 2:

I'm amazing too. I'm super excited I haven't worn this dress in two years. Yay, that's so fun.

Speaker 1:

I know, I was like going through my closet.

Speaker 2:

I'm like wait, am I wearing this? I mean, I was really excited to hang it in my closet because I knew I would wear it sometime this summer. I love this dress and I was like am I really wearing? This today I was like yeah, I'm like okay, cool.

Speaker 1:

That's so fun. I'm excited for you, me too. Well welcome, thank you. Are we like diving in right away? Yeah, we're going to just dive right in.

Speaker 2:

How about that? That sounds amazing.

Speaker 1:

It's been a while since you've been on the show. It has been, and I would love for you to introduce yourself, because I imagine we have some new listeners and other than the fact that you are, julia, one of my dearest, dearest friends, and I'm so grateful to you for coming on today, because I just randomly said hey, I received a message that you might have a message and you should come on the show.

Speaker 2:

Yay.

Speaker 2:

I like yay, yeah, totally, I'm like I always have a message. I don't know what this one is, but I'm sure we'll find something. Um, yes, I love you so much. Thank you so much for for asking me to be here. I haven't done one of these in probably since the last time you and I did one. Oh, really, yeah, because I don't do interviews on my podcast and so, like I haven't done one in a really long time. So, anyway, so, thank you, welcome back, thanks, thanks.

Speaker 2:

My name is Julia Christine and I am a healer and I have a podcast that is called Life After Breath, and it's a a podcast that is called Life After Breath, and it's a daily podcast that is about 10 minutes long. Every day, it's about three to five minutes of me talking about how to manifest and live your best life, the life that you actually truly desire, how to connect to the true version of who you are and release all of the belief systems that you might have been raised to believe, even though that might not resonate with you, and then three to five minutes of breathing, which I encourage people to listen in the morning because it's an amazing way to start their day. I know a lot of people listen in the evening because it's an amazing way to end their day. So it's up to you, obviously, when you listen, but it's just 10 minutes a day, little bite-sized pieces. On Sundays I do a grounding or a deeper, let's say, meditation.

Speaker 2:

You know I don't like to use the word meditation because it turns people off. Oh, I can't meditate, I can't. Still my mind, I can't. But the thing about meditation is that you meditate every day without even realizing it. Anytime you're focused on one thing, anytime you take a couple of deep breaths and clear your mind, which you do every day. So in the car, in the grocery store, like wherever you are, you end up meditating and you just don't realize it. And we make it.

Speaker 2:

As you know, vocabulary is a big thing for me, but we make the word meditation feel like this big, heavy weighted thing, and so I try to avoid those words that make us feel a certain way.

Speaker 2:

So that's why I started doing groundings. But I've gotten away from doing the same old thing every Sunday, which I was doing for a while, and every meditation is just a little bit different, based on where I'm guided by the energies of the universe, and I mean we can talk about that as far as who I am and what I do, and I say I'm a healer and energy is my medium, and so I am grateful enough to be able to listen to the energies, to source energy, to the universal energies like the sun and the moon and the earth, and guide people, and so they have messages for us regularly. This last Sunday was beautiful about like the earth just reminding you of your strength, and actually all three, the sun and the moon as well but in very different ways, and it was beautiful, and so like I go into it not knowing what's going to happen, and then I'm literally just guided, and so it was about 16 minutes, so Sundays are a little bit longer, but not too much Beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's beautiful and the work that you're doing is incredible, and I have been so fortunate to be along your journey with you. Thank you, you've been discovering who you are.

Speaker 2:

It's amazing and like. Thank you, I'm so glad that you feel like you've benefited from from my work, from what I do. It's beautiful for me Like. It's so amazing to like hang up the phone with a quote unquote client, which I don't like to call people that, but like, like and and just be like. I hope that was as beautiful for them as it was for me, because every time, whether I learn something different or I see something different, it's just it's incredible. And so then to get feedback about like I physically felt weight lifted or I physically felt tingling in my legs and I have like. I literally had a person tell me a couple weeks ago that she hadn't felt her fingers in a year and just by us going through the process of releasing energy and releasing like responsibility, the tension in her body allowed her to release and she was like I can feel my fingers.

Speaker 2:

And she was like crying. She's like I haven't felt my fingers in a year, except for them to hurt, and like so it's. And so like I didn't know that was going to happen.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know it was even a thing for her.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I knew she was in pain, but like I didn't know. And so then seeing literally her like in a ball all scrunched up and then be able to just kind of release some of that energetically and then have it manifest physically is is amazing, that's incredible.

Speaker 2:

Wow, yeah, and and there's a lot of me that has kind of I won't say struggled, but like been like I didn't do that and like source kids like yes, you did, Like we did it, but also it wouldn't have happened if you weren't there to do it. So it's like, so, taking ownership of the fact that I, that I can help people and I can heal people, is awesome, and also like can I say that?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I believe you can.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, so it's exciting and it's beautiful on my end too, and so I'm just I feel you know I don't like using this word I feel beyond blessed to be in this position of being able to help people the way I do and benefit from it as well. So yeah, so that's me.

Speaker 1:

We are all very, very fortunate. So that's me. We are all very, very fortunate, those of us who have had the opportunity to have a session with you, or obviously I'm grateful to just be your friend. Different, but yeah, so, yeah, so, let's, I don't know what, what should we talk about?

Speaker 2:

So what I want to, yeah, there, I mean, I mean yes and always, and, and, and, and. Um, it's so cool Cause I uh, you know, I, my form of meditation is a little bit different every morning, but I literally have conversations with energies and so I'm learning more every day about how it all works and who we are, how we're here, like all of that stuff, and that's important stuff for me to know for my future and to further help people who have those questions and stuff like that. So it's important that I understand them as well. But I was like, okay, what's this message? What's this message? And it's like it'll happen, just let it happen.

Speaker 2:

And so like I haven't been given, like this is what you need to say, or anything like that. But what came to me was like you have also made massive changes and come into this new amazing neurodivergent, like information and all of your amazing workshops that I'm like I'm going to promote her workshop. It was like no, no, no, no, no, but also yes, but also whatever, and so, with your listeners and the people that are attending, like your lives and things like that, I thought maybe, maybe you have questions that you think they might want to know to understand what I do, or even like not what you do, because obviously you can talk about that, but like what would your listeners or clients ask me? That's a great question.

Speaker 2:

I mean and I can say this now as well I'm happy to come to the live so that they can actually ask me questions. But like, but, based on what you talk about and what you do and why people listen to you, what would they ask source, what would they ask the universal energies that I can answer?

Speaker 1:

What's the reason why people, why it's so important that people connect to themselves and to their inner being.

Speaker 2:

Okay, cool, this is a big one, it's a big question, so okay. So I want to like break it down a little bit right, and it's interesting because this kind of came up in my conversations today. But like, we come into this world and are instantly influenced by the world around us, by our parents, by their belief systems, by how they raise us, by our culture, by our neighbors, our society, all of the things from infancy to how we're taught in school, how we're, how we're taught in school, how we're told you know, even like, from the first toy you receive a girl gets a doll, a boy gets a, you know a bear or a truck, you know what I mean. Like, all of that like, and that goes in a different direction. But we are instantly influenced by the world around us and then, as we grow, that is what we tend to follow.

Speaker 2:

I know people will say that they practice a certain religion because their parents did, because their grandparents did, or they have a specific political affiliation because their parents did, because you know what I mean, and so we, it is in order to. I think what we both hear more often than anything is that I don't know who I am. Yeah, I don't know and how? Yeah, I don't know. And how do you, how do you even begin to understand what you want when you don't know who you are?

Speaker 1:

Well, it's so. Excuse me for interrupting. It's so interesting to me because when I started on my path of all of this, all of this, all of this you know, I had started by listening to Abraham and they kept saying step into who you are, become all that you are. And I was like I don't know who that is, like I really don't. I mean, and even around that timeframe I was trying to start dating and I'm like write up all the things about you.

Speaker 1:

And I was like, yeah, I sound like a boring, I don't even know how to describe myself. And then I went down the path of getting to know who I am and I'm still obviously learning, but I don't. If you could share a little bit about.

Speaker 2:

Well, because you're evolving and so you're. You're going to continue discovering who you are forever, so get used to it. But along with that is security and knowing who you are once you start to get into that space. And so how? Because, being so heavily influenced by the world around us which is normal, like it's an everybody thing we don't necessarily like. Our identities are almost created for us, and so the question specifically was why is it important to connect to who you are? The answer is so that you can discover who you are, so that you can start to realize what, of everything that you are surrounded by, is true for you.

Speaker 2:

And people are like no, there's only one truth. Cool, great, great. But also more than one thing can be true at the same time. And so when we release again the words and our stronghold on no, there's one truth and one truth alone, cool, but let's I don't know why I'm going off on this tangent. Let's look at the sun for a second. I follow a band. This is so bizarre. I follow a band called they Might Be Giants. They're my favorite band. I love them to pieces. You guys are going to learn a lot about me.

Speaker 2:

If you listen to some of their music. It's bizarre, it's strange, but they redid a song called the Sun and the lyrics are literally the sun is a mass. Now, I can't remember the lyrics, of course, but anyway it talks about the sun and how it's this gas and how all of the scientific things behind the sun. Years later they did another song about the sun because scientists have discovered that everything we thought about the sun wasn't true. And actually this song is a very different song. It was like, yeah, that other song was full of crap.

Speaker 2:

Like literally, they make fun of themselves for singing that song because now we've learned something else about it. For years and years, centuries, this is what we believed about the sun and now we know something else to be true. And so which was it not true before? I mean like yes, the answer is yes to that question, but truth changes, and so if there's only one truth and we're holding on to that, actually no, you know, I'm I'm kind of not making the point I want to make, but anyway, back to the question.

Speaker 1:

Well, let me hold on real quick. So you said our identities are decided for us, which is a is a very big and bold statement, and also very true, which is why I do identity evolution work right, Because we can change the identity that has been given to us.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and so how I like to look at that is because change is a scary word. Hi, vocabulary, right, change is a scary word and a lot of people are like no, I like who I am, even though I don't know who I am. I like who I am, I like what I'm doing. I don't want to change. Change is scary. Is change scary or have you just been told change is scary? I've been told change is scary my whole life Me too. Nobody likes to change. Change is scary. Bs, change is amazing.

Speaker 2:

But if you say the word change or like that, you can change your identity and you clinch up a little bit cool, cool, cool cool. Take some deep breaths and let that go. It's not about needing to change. It's about remembering who you are. It's about coming back to center. It's about what you said in the very beginning and spending time and connecting to that inner part of you. That is who you truly are. And it is not our fault that our identities are sort of created for us, that we are so heavily influenced because, as an infant, when you're handed a doll and you'd rather play with the truck, you just don't know that. Yet you are told this is the way it is. This is the way it is. This is the way it is, and as you become more cognizant of what might work better for you or what you're actually drawn towards, that is literally you remembering the part of you that came in as a conscious being that wasn't influenced.

Speaker 2:

And I remember when I started asking myself who I was, I realized that I had made the majority of my life's decisions based on what other people were telling me, and I was so heavily influenced by what other people would think about what other people said, about whether other people's decisions might be. I tell this story all the time. I couldn't decide what kind of birthday cake I wanted, because it was. I was so worried about what, what everybody else wanted, because I was living my life influenced by the people around me. Hang on a second. This is my life. What do I want? What do I think is true? Who am I? And so I want to live a soul-led life. I want to live the life that I chose to come into this existence, to live and to be that person, and that doesn't mean that it's wrong. It is very possible that when you start asking yourself these questions and you say this is my religion and it is my religion because it's what I was taught and because it's what my family did. And dah, dah, dah dah. But let me look at it. Does this align with who I am? Do I really believe this stuff? The answer is not always going to be no, right? You know what I mean. Like for me it was, but that doesn't mean that's true for you. Like literally, it fits, so keep wearing it.

Speaker 2:

I love using the analogy of clothes, because when something is uncomfortable, it's because it doesn't fit. And so what fits you, shannon, doesn't fit me. We have very different body types. Does that make your clothes wrong? No, it doesn't make my clothes wrong. It means it doesn't fit me. It's not for me.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to let you wear it Well, and I think that I think it's an important distinction to to really emphasize, I guess, that it is important to. It's more about the curiosity and the awareness and going back and saying does this fit for me? Because you're right, maybe it does. It doesn't mean that everything is a lie and everything is exactly, yeah, yeah, but it's taking that and and opening yourself up to look at it and say is this true for me, does this align with me? And if it does, great.

Speaker 2:

And if it doesn't, then I have the opportunity to make adjustments look into something else, yeah, and remember who you are, and I mean remember well it it? Honestly I'm saying remember who you are, literally reconnect with that part of you, and so all of that comes back to who are you and so, but I do think it's important. Sorry, I'm kind of all over the place. There's something I want to say, but I also want to finish what we're talking about. I think it is important, While we say your identity was created for you, that doesn't like you said.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't mean it's wrong. It might absolutely be who you are right now, and that's amazing. Maybe you grew up in a space where you were allowed to choose. Maybe you grew up in a space where you were allowed to choose. Maybe you were. Something was thrust in your hands and this is, this is doctrine, and so you've believed that your whole life. And let's, let's, let's just look at how generations have changed. Our parents grew up with parents where the mom stayed at home and the mom provided all of the nurturing and all of the cooking and all of this, and that was a woman's place. Obviously, that has massively changed as more and more women were like hold up a second, that's not what I want, and a lot of women went through a lot of shit, excuse me to get to that point and that's cool and that's what we're talking about, but you can see how those women decided that's not for me. There are women today who say that's what I want and that's the life that they live. There are also women today who are told that's what they want and are not happy in that space. And those are the people who I would encourage to say is this really what I want, or is this what I'm being told I want? And then make those adjustments for themselves.

Speaker 2:

All of that comes back to, like you said, getting curious and just asking yourself some questions with no judgment. That's the part about curiosity that I want everybody to be careful with. Judgment is a sticky swamp that is impossible to get out of. It goes hand in hand with guilt, and so you wanna stay away from those things by getting curious and instead of well, why did I do that? Why did I make that decision? That's a very negative way of looking at it. Instead of going huh, I love that noise. Yeah, where did that come from? Why did I choose that? I chose it so I can't do anything about it, but would I do something different next time? Okay, yes, what would I do different next time? How would I approach that differently?

Speaker 2:

There are so many times where I have a conversation and I realize as soon as something comes out of my mouth, whoops, shouldn't have said, have said that, but it's out, there's nothing I can do about it, and so now, instead of backpedaling, I'm going to move forward and own what I said, or you know what I mean. Whatever that is, however, I need to move forward, and so all of the things that have happened, let's not judge ourselves. Let's just learn from it and move forward and get curious without the judgment. All of this comes back to people wanting to know who they are, and that is why it is important to connect to that inner part of you.

Speaker 2:

And if you're interested in living a soul-led life, which appealed to me when I heard the differences between those two, it was just like a slap upside the head, but it was just like, oh my gosh, I've lived my whole life that way, except there are some massive decisions that I made for myself that changed my life. I decided out of the blue, literally out of nowhere, to move to New York from California and I did it two months later and nobody else encouraged me. I didn't ask anybody about it, I just said I think this is what I want to do, and I did. It Changed my life. I'm so much happier Like.

Speaker 2:

I cannot tell you. And so there are decisions like that, that we realize that, whether we did it intentionally or whether that part of us was like this, is what you're doing, I mean, I don't know, but but that think about your life and the decisions that you've made, that you've made for yourself versus being have made influenced by the world around you, and you'll probably find that the decisions you make for yourself are the decisions that have made you most happy in your life.

Speaker 1:

I know that Right.

Speaker 2:

That comes from. Once you make that decision, then okay. So then let's, if this is okay, let's, let's get to the root of how do we even do that? How do you connect to that part of you? How do you like start to make those changes or step back into who you are? And it's literally like. This is why I have my podcast is because, literally, taking three breaths, like if you can take three minutes, that would be ideal or more, but three minutes is enough. Three breaths, like if you can take three minutes, that would be ideal or more, but three minutes is enough. Three breaths is enough. If you have 18 kids and you're running around and you've got to get to work and you've got to get them to this and this and this and this and this and this and this cool, it doesn't feel like you have that time, but you're driving, you can take three breaths, three deep breaths. Once the kids are in the car and you start pulling out of the driveway, obviously, pay attention, you're not going to close your eyes, but just taking those three breaths is enough to connect. It's not necessarily enough to hear, but get in the habit of taking those three breaths and you'll be surprised how that will expand into more.

Speaker 2:

You go to the bathroom, the first thing you do every time you wake up. I mean, maybe not the first thing, but everybody has to pee when they wake up. That's a human thing, right? So guess what? You're sitting on that toilet, you can breathe. You can breathe. Yeah, you don't have to think about the day ahead. In fact, I encourage you not to.

Speaker 2:

I feel like when I wake up, my head is the busiest. It is all day, because I am thinking about what I dreamed about. I'm thinking about what happened the night before, the day before, a deadline that might be due, what I have to do that day, who needs my attention, how is so-and-so feeling. All of those things are in my head the moment I wake up and I have to consciously say nope and like good morning, it's a beautiful day, I did sleep well. This feels good. I love making my bed, and so I start my day with that little bit of gratitude. And there are days that I forget to. But every day, I grab myself a glass of water after I tinkle and I sit on the couch and I clear my mind and I make sure that I'm not thinking about you, and I'm not thinking about the people in my life and I'm not thinking about my day. I'm just sitting and just allowing myself to exist and in that moment I'm connecting to myself. Go ahead.

Speaker 1:

So that's a question I have, because you said you clear your mind, and I know that can often feel difficult or uncomfortable or people feel like they're unable to do that. What would be a recommendation from you for people to more easily be able to be in that space?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. I have a couple of things. There's like an exercise that I actually think is very effective, and it is to imagine a folded up piece of white paper. And, if you need to like, a lot of people need to close their eyes in order to visualize stuff. So do that like whatever feels best to you, take some deep breaths and relax and imagine a folded up piece of white paper and behind it is like the noise and the white noise static, of like an old television set.

Speaker 2:

And you've folded up this piece of paper and it's white and beautifully clear. And then you open up one crease, so now it's a rectangle and all the noise is behind it All of the to-dos, all of the children, all of the people in your life that need help, all of the politics, all of the world crises. And you open up the piece of paper again and now there's more white and less noise. And you open it again and you open it again and now in your mind there is only white paper, there's no more noise, there's no more noise, and you focus on the white paper and all of that stuff is behind it, but it's not your focus and sometimes some of that noise will try to creep back in like pencil shavings and you just swap them off. That's okay. Your brain is supposed to function, your brain is supposed to think, and so it feels a little funny because we're not in the habit of having nothing to look at.

Speaker 2:

So keep your focus on that white page and take a couple of breaths and then, when you feel like it's unbearable because it's uncomfortable to start something new, take another deep breath and then ask yourself okay, what is the first logical step? What is the first logical thing for me to do? And then take a deep breath and go do it. That's how, and in the beginning it might be three breaths with white pages. It might work its way up to a full minute. That's a long time to have nothing on your mind.

Speaker 2:

So you are and have been since the moment you were born constantly thinking. There is constantly stuff on your mind, and so it's going to feel weird to have that white page in front of you and not feel like you need to be doing something else or not feeling like you quote-unquote should do something else. You are the subject of your sentence, this is your life, so taking some time for you is honestly more important than anything else and we've been told that that's selfish. But whose life is it? It's yours. There's nothing selfish about living your life. There is nothing selfish about focusing on you because it's your life. And let's be honest if you can move from a space of calm and of ease, you are going to get so much more accomplished than you will when it's all running through your brain, because then it's frenetic and you can't focus on anything and you don't even know where to step, let alone how to get to everything you need to do.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. Thank you for taking us through that. I did it along with you and you've been holding out on me because you've never shared that with me. I was like, oh, I love that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's a couple of them, but that's the most effective one, I think, like universally. I think that's the one that most people can relate to. Yeah, there's yeah, there's a couple of them. I'll share the other one with you later.

Speaker 2:

But the thing about to-do lists and, trust me, I'm a Virgo, I love my lists but the thing about to-do lists is that you see all of the things that you need to do and so now, all of a sudden, all of those things are in your mind and you don't know what to do. First, you don't know where to go and you start to feel stressed about it, you start to feel anxiety about it. How am I ever going to get all this done? There's so much to do. That's a choice.

Speaker 2:

Stress is a choice, and saying that is like controversial, but it absolutely is. You are choosing either to focus your thoughts on something that makes you feel stressful or you are choosing stress. And so when you start to feel stressed, stop, take a deep breath and ask yourself what you're choosing. If you are worried about because you've got 80 things that you need to accomplish that day cool, you can't do 80 things at a time. So stop and ask yourself okay, what's the first logical step? And do that and then you ask yourself what's the next logical step? You usually don't have to ask yourself that question. They usually start following an order and, before you know it, not only is it done, but it's done early because you're not trying to do it all at the same time. It doesn't make sense, but it's true, if you slow down, you're going to get more done. It doesn't make sense. You'd think the faster you go, the faster you're going to get there.

Speaker 1:

It's not true? Well, and it's not even the next logical step, necessarily, but it's the next aligned step Like what feels good right aligned step like what feels good.

Speaker 2:

Right, absolutely. I use the word logical because I'm a word person and I have people in my life who tell me that they don't want to feel, that they don't want their emotions to guide them, and so this is really important. Actually, let me rephrase that they don't want their emotions to control them, and so when I say what feels best, they're like I don't care about what feels good. What feels good is to go lay on a beach somewhere. You know what I mean. But that's not even what we're talking. And so then that's like okay, obviously that's not what we're talking about. So when I say logical, say logical, it makes it make more sense in a very physical way. Instead of I'm, it would feel better for me to do this. When you ask yourself either one of those questions what feels best, what feels more aligned, that's very much you and me speak. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like that's where I would say logical, because that makes people feel good, that they're doing the smartest thing. Yeah, do you know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean yeah, that totally makes sense.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and so, and so it's the same thing. We're saying the same thing. What is logical and what feels good will be what is aligned. Whatever pops into your head from that quiet space is going to be what you internally want to need to do next.

Speaker 1:

Right, because that's the intuitive guidance that's coming through, because you're not thinking and breaking it down and analyzing it and processing it.

Speaker 2:

And because you're not looking at all 80 things at the same time. Right, that's mostly what it's about, cause you know, and that's something that there's a book that is hard to read. Not going to lie that, like you know, I read a lot. You know I like words, this like I can't tell you how many times I reread the same sentence, trying to figure out what this guy was trying to say. I'm going to turn around because it's on my shelf and I can't remember what it's called. Okay, it's the power of decision, and it's it's called the power of decision.

Speaker 2:

I I know to be true, but I'll say I believe that every single one of us is an extension of source energy. Source energy is what most people call God, okay, um, and I call them source energy because they are the source of all energy and everything is energy. And source energy is within each of us, your inner being, that inner voice that just makes you feel so good. Your higher self is often what we'll call that. That part of you is source energy, that is source within you, and so when you connect to that, you're literally connecting to the God within you, to that part of you, to source, to spirit, and that means that if God is all knowing right and you have God within you, then so are you so anytime you have any question, and so are you so anytime you have any question. You have the answer.

Speaker 2:

Anytime you feel insecure, you have the answer. You know, you already know. You already know what you want, you already know who you are, you already have all the ideas you're ever going to have within you. You just have to get to a point where you hear those things, where you connect to those things enough that you know. So that sounds so far away for so many of us. I mean, trust me, I struggle with what I'm doing next too, just like the next guy, so it sounds so super far away, okay, so, so it sounds so super far away. And knowing that it's true, knowing that it's in there, gives you a sense of peace that okay, okay, okay, okay. It feels so overwhelming because I just don't know, but actually I do, and if I keep that in mind, I might be able to find it. It gives me a little bit more faith that I can find it.

Speaker 1:

That's the thing, though I feel like a lot of times people know, like they know what they want to do, they know what their next step is, they know, but they stop themselves out of fear, like we know the answers. Yeah, yes.

Speaker 2:

They know they stop themselves out of fear or like we know the answers. Yeah, yes, they know they stop themselves from fear, but where is that fear from? Usually, that's fear based on all the things that we thought were true for us, right, based on all the things that the world, that the people in our world, the people in our lives, are telling us is what we're supposed to do. Shannon, how many people told you not to quit your job, and for how many years did you know you needed to?

Speaker 1:

leave that job. Several people told me not to.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, and I'm not going to lie to you. Society has always told you not to. Yeah, because that's what we're supposed to do is get a job. That's what we're told. I mean, they ask preschoolers what they want to be when they grow up. And why would you walk away from something like?

Speaker 1:

that to the unknown and just trust in yourself and trust in the universe.

Speaker 2:

Why wouldn't you Do you know what I mean? Why wouldn't you start doing something that felt better? Yeah, now, I'm not saying I'm literally not telling everybody to go quit their jobs. I know people who are in finance, who love finance. It's where they need to be, it's where they're supposed to be, it's where they want to be. Yeah, let's be honest, our society does need to function. There are people who want those jobs, who do feel satisfied coming home at 4am having picked up the trash in New York City. I have a friend who loves his job, and those people make a lot of money too, but that's not what it's about. But seriously, I could never do that.

Speaker 2:

But we so don't think that I'm telling everybody to go and be like, go sit in an ashram somewhere and meditate themselves to oblivion. That's not for everybody. It is for some of us. It's not for everybody. Find what feels good, follow what feels good. What is that next logical step? You know? So how do you practice that? Because it does feel so far away.

Speaker 2:

This is what I want to encourage you to do. We are not in the habit of listening to that voice of connecting. We're not in the habit of taking three deep breaths in the morning when we wake up, right? So how are we going to be in the habit of hearing that voice of understanding? And what I want to encourage you to do, this is what I was told. I denied that voice for so long that she stopped speaking. I denied that voice for so long that I stopped listening.

Speaker 2:

And so when I woke up in the morning and I sat down with my glass of water, I first started by saying I'm listening, I want to hear you, I am listening, I want to know who I am, I want to know what I want. What do I want? I'm listening. And then this sounds so trivial and you've heard me say this before I'm listening. And then this sounds so trivial, and you've heard me say this before. Then I go to my closet and I open my closet door and I say what do I want to wear today? And I don't grab the first thing that's there, the thing that might feel the most comfortable with the weather, the thing that's clean I'll wear dirty clothes if it's what I want to wear and literally stand in front of your closet, in front of your drawers, in front of however you keep your clothes and ask yourself what do? I want to wear what feels the best outfit today and go with that and watch how amazing you feel. And watch how amazing you feel. Watch how people compliment you.

Speaker 1:

Watch how you feel incredible all day long in the clothes that you wanted to wear. And then that's magnetic.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. When you feel good, everybody feels good about you and also it's not about the other people, but regardless, that's going to take practice. Reminding yourself that you're listening every day is going to take practice, and life is practice, and we get ourselves in a habit which is just practice, it's just a thought. We I mean a belief is habit. A belief is practice, because a belief is just a thought. I mean a belief is habit. A belief is practice Because a belief is just a thought. You think a whole bunch, and I could go on, but that's not what we're talking about right now. But, seriously, like, we bring proof into our experience and we can talk about that another time. So practice something as mundane as standing in front of your closet and asking yourself what you want to wear, because then you're going to start understanding what that voice is. You're going to start oh I, oh, this is what I'm supposed to wear, cool.

Speaker 2:

Then the next time you go to a restaurant, don't order what you always want or what you always have, or what's cheapest on the menu or what's most expensive on the menu. Look at the piece of paper and say what do I want? And they can come. Don't feel any pressure. Let people order in front of you. If you're in line and not seated, ask the waitress to come back. Seriously, take your time. You're under nobody's constraints. It's your life, and ask yourself what you want to eat. It'll be the best meal of your life.

Speaker 1:

I love that because it really simplifies it and makes it you know like. It's such a beautiful way to connect to yourself and your desires and also going and asking yourself what I want to wear. You know, what do I want to wear today? You know what do I want to wear today, is it? It's such a I don't know what the word is that I'm looking for, but it's a beautiful way to connect.

Speaker 2:

It's simple and yeah, and a simple way. The thing is that we have to start simple. I don't know if your listeners listen to Abraham Hicks, but Abraham says this all the time you can't get there from there, you can't get there from where you are. If you are not in the habit of hearing that inner voice or connecting to that inner part of you, your true self, you're not going to be able to, all of a sudden, have all your answers that I told you are within you. You're not going to be able to understand. This is what I need to do with my life. This is who I am. This is where I'm going.

Speaker 2:

You got to start small and get in the habit and choose the next conscious thought, choose what's next, and then you're going to start hearing that voice and so, when you do need to sit down and make those big decisions, you're going to hear it, you're going to know it, you're going to feel it and you're going to be able to start following yourself and guiding yourself through your life, instead of being so influenced by the world around us, by our time constraints, by any of those things, literally.

Speaker 2:

But you got to start small. The same thing is true if you're completely depressed and everybody around you wants you to feel joy, cool, that's what they want for you and that's great. But you can't get from depressed to joy like that. It doesn't work that way. You got to work your way up and you do that by choosing a better feeling, thought consciously and because then you know, even though from depression, the next conscious level, thought, is like anger, anger feels like relief from the powerlessness of depression, and so that feels better. So get angry, don't stay angry, don't act out in anger, but have an angry thought, because then you know you can consciously choose a frustrated thought which feels better than anger.

Speaker 1:

And then you're going, moving up work your way up.

Speaker 2:

You know I don't like using the word work, but you move your way up into feeling good, because anger feels better than depression. So it doesn't matter that it's anger, it matters that it feels better.

Speaker 1:

It's interesting because I really actually appreciate this conversation, because, as I've been on my path over the last several years, I was following the little whispers and the little nudges and and moving, my just moving along the way, and it wasn't even I wouldn't even say it was overly conscious or intentional, I was just like, ooh, that would be fun, or Ooh, I'd like to try that, or you know. However it worked out, but I've found recently that I'm not hearing myself as much, and so these are really great practices to help me judgment. And I'm going to say this to you it's so easy for us to want something.

Speaker 2:

You want to hear that voice. You remember what that voice feels like and sounds like, and it's incredible. And then you know, and then you know, and then that feels great and and when we feel like that goes away, even though we want it again, what we end up focusing on is the fact that it's not there, yeah, the fact that it went away, and that's not going to get it back Not that it ever goes away. You're never disconnected, Even though you feel like you've never heard that voice, that you've never known who you truly are. You are never not connected to that. That you've never known who you truly are. You are never not connected to that. There was, before I met you, what, like five months before I met you, I was literally on the brink. I hated myself and I hated who I was.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I was so disconnected is the word I use, but that's not true. I was so resistant, I had built up so much resistance that I didn't see that spark, that actual connection. I didn't realize that there was a golden line connecting me to me, connecting me to source.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because I was just so blinded by my resistance to it. And once I started allowing myself to release some of that resistance, I noticed how strong that cord actually is. And then you get to focus on it and then it feels like the biggest connection in the history of the universe. But it never goes away. And instead of focusing on how I don't have that connection, or it's not as clear as I want it to be, focus on the fact that you have a connection and you're so excited about feeling that good about it. Again, because that excitement, okay. So let me just that excitement is what is going to bring that to you. This is how manifestation works.

Speaker 2:

So in anything but what happens is we are told to do all these affirmations right, I can look in the mirror and say you are the most beautiful person in this building. If I don't believe that it's never going to be true for me because I don't believe it, I can say it to them. The words don't matter. So what I'm going to say instead is I am so excited about feeling like I'm the most beautiful person in this building. Not that the beauty thing is probably not the best example, but it's where we are. It's the feel like I can't. I believe that it's going to be amazing to feel like I'm the most beautiful person on the block. That would feel so good if I felt that good about myself. I believe that and I start feeling how good that feels. That's the point, instead of being so specific in our affirmations. I am for someone who's sick. I am healthy and whole. They do not believe that they don't feel healthy, they don't feel whole. So saying I am healthy and whole isn't going to get it.

Speaker 1:

I'll often say I'm willing to believe.

Speaker 2:

Sure, but does that make you excited about it? Does that put you in a feel good space? I'm willing to believe is beautiful and it is a step it is. It is more general. I would encourage you to go as general as you need to go, even if it's just like I can't wait to feel good, yeah, and like I believe that I believe that it's going to be really cool to feel good again. And then you start imagining what that feels like and all of a sudden, you feel good, you feel better, and then you can get a little more specific about I can't wait to feel like the healthiest person on the planet and like, oh, when I'm healthy, it's going to be this. I can't wait. This is so exciting. And now, all of a sudden, there's excitement, there's joy, you're looking forward and you feel it and you're in it, and that feeling is what expands.

Speaker 2:

And there's this thing that is so important that I was talking about earlier that we could talk about later. It's the law of attraction. The law of attraction is that any thought you think, if you think it enough, honestly, law of attraction starts like activating at 17 seconds. If you think about a thought for 17 seconds, whether it's good or bad, law of attraction is going to bring you more of whatever it is that you're thinking about, so that's. The thing to remember, though, is that law of attraction is not biased it's going to bring you what you're thinking about, period.

Speaker 2:

So if you're focused, on that well, yeah, I mean, and it takes a while for you to actually have a manifested like in your physical. You know what I mean like that kind of manifestation. So don't think that you have a negative thought and all of a sudden negative stuff's going to happen to you. That's not, that's not it. But you have a negative thought and you think about it for 17 seconds. You're going to have more negative thoughts you're going to have. You're going to feel worse about it you're going to have more negative thoughts.

Speaker 1:

You're going to feel worse about it.

Speaker 2:

And you're going to start feeling worse about that. And the more worse you feel, the harder it is to get out of that and I don't use hard very often, but it's true. So what I'm saying is, if you're thinking about I wish I could hear that voice again, and instead of being excited about hearing that voice again, you're thinking about the lack of hearing that voice, you're going to get more of that feeling of I don't have that connection, that connection has gone away, blah, blah, blah. Not blah, blah, blah, but like, et cetera. Whereas if you can say an affirmation that is general enough that you believe it so that you can start feeling good about it, that feel good feeling is what the law of attraction is going to be, so attracted to that you're going to feel better about it.

Speaker 2:

I say this a lot in my podcast, because when you take those deep breaths, even just three, there's a sense of calm. It just happens All of us. That's why we tell people to take a deep breath. It comes over you and it's neurological and there's a physical aspect. To is always joy, and so connect when you have that come over you Again. Yes, it is neurological and it is spiritual in that. That's the connection, that's it right there. And if you can allow yourself to sit for a minute in just this nothing, calm space, you're content In that moment, there's nothing else, and that feels good. And then you realize it feels good and then all of a sudden you're like holy crap, I feel good. And then that's exciting, and so you feel better and literally in the two minutes that you're breathing you go from being like I'm crazed but I need to take this moment for myself, to being like I feel kind of good. I have no reason to but I just do yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know, and that is because that is you connecting to who you are. You any negative thought you have feels bad because it's in complete contrast to who you really are. It's in complete opposition to how you really feel about yourself. And so when you start hating on yourself, whether it's physically or your actions or what you say just remember that that feels so bad because it's not true, because it's not who you are. And so then now we're talking about paying attention to how we feel and how the things we do and say make us feel.

Speaker 2:

But we can't get there from there. We're not used to paying attention to how the things we think or say make us feel, and so that's where we go back to the basics. Take three breaths, connect to that feeling. Take three breaths, connect to that nothingness. Come back, ask yourself what you want to wear for the day. Start small, because you've got to build a new habit, so that then when you start to pay attention to how it feels when your lungs expand, when the air actually like, literally feel the air coming into your lungs. How often do you do that? I mean, if you'd listen to my podcast, you do it every day.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I do it every day, but I don't know that everybody does.

Speaker 2:

But like I'll tell you, for the last 45 years of my life I never did it once, yeah, not even when I was like at yoga or something like that. I never actually consciously felt the air coming into my lungs. But by practicing that, it does a couple of things. First of all, it gives you one thing to focus on so that your mind doesn't wander to all the others. But also, by practicing that, I'm becoming aware of how I feel. I'm becoming aware of how it feels to breathe. And once you start practicing that awareness, you're going to start becoming more aware of the world around you, of how you think, of how you feel.

Speaker 2:

But it starts small. Allow yourself you know, we used to say this all the time as health coaches to give yourself some grace. Right, give yourself grace. And that's still true, because remind, remember that you have a lifetime, years of experience, years of practice paying attention to the world around you. Even being told that when you pay attention to yourself, that's wrong, that that's selfish. Even being told that experiencing something like anger is wrong. Shut it off. No, allow yourself to feel that anger and realize, wow, that feels better than the last thing I felt. What could feel better than that? I'm frustrated, that I can't stop being angry about this. Cool, now we're in frustration and you've consciously made a choice to think about something else.

Speaker 2:

And if somebody says, no, stop being angry, where is there to go? But back down to that depression, back down to that lack of control. Your emotions don't control you, but they are literally your GPS to get you where you want to be. And right now, if we're just talking about feeling good, we want to feel better, and so your emotions are going to tell you which direction you're headed in, and so you want to use your emotions as a guide. It doesn't mean they're in control. You are in control and you control your emotions by how you think your thoughts are going to make you feel a certain way. And if that feeling is good, or, let's say, better than the last one, if that feeling is a relief from your last feeling, then you know you're headed in the right direction. Don't judge what it is.

Speaker 1:

No, don't judge it and allow yourself to express whatever it is that you're feeling, whether it's you know. You need to release the tears, or you need to scream, or you need to move the energy through your body.

Speaker 2:

Right, absolutely. And I do say often like don't act out in that anger. And what I mean by that is and actually it's interesting because this came up the other day we actually have an aversion to anger, not just because we've been told our whole lives that it's wrong, but anger is usually expressed outwards, where depression is kept inwards, and so it is an opportunity for us to experience someone else's feelings, and we don't like that. And so that's why it's more selfish and comfortable for me to tell you to stay in depression than to experience anger because it doesn't affect me. And so now, when people tell you not to be angry, you know where it's coming from. It's coming from their discomfort in your anger. It's far easier to see you depressed because it doesn't affect me. It's harder for me to see you in anger because it affects me.

Speaker 1:

Well, and we're talking about healthy release of anger as well.

Speaker 2:

I mean absolutely. I mean I have angry music that I listen to that makes me bounce around and, honestly, by the end of that song, I'm in a much better place. Yeah, because I've released that anger, because I've slam, danced the heck out of it and cursed all of the language, all of the words in the song, and that is a release and it feels good and it hasn't affected anyone else. Yeah, I haven't said anything hateful or angry to other people, and that's where. But. But I want to tell you, don't hate yourself, don't like beat up on yourself for speaking out in anger, because that's a habit, because you hadn't caught yourself before. Right. And when you start to make these changes, what's going to happen and I, if I've experienced this personally, I've experienced this these changes, what's going to happen and I've experienced this personally, I've experienced this with clients what's going to happen is you're going to react, you're going to act out in anger and then, as soon as it's done, you're going to be like, whoa, what did I just do? Okay, I acted out in anger. I wish. I'm working on this, I'm trying.

Speaker 2:

Maybe you apologize, maybe you don't, whatever that apologize, maybe you don't, whatever that is Then the next time, but you caught yourself. It was after the fact, but you caught yourself. You paid attention, you realized you felt it. Whatever that is, the next time you'll probably be mid sentence and you'll catch yourself and you'll be like hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. I'm speaking out in anger. That's not what I want to do. Give me a second, forgive me, whatever that is, and you'll be like damn it, why didn't I catch myself beforehand? Because you're not in the habit. But you're getting better, you're getting closer. You didn't wait till afterwards. That time you caught it in the middle. And then the next time it'll be right before it comes out of your mouth, and then the next time it'll be even before.

Speaker 2:

You have that kind of visceral reaction where you're like I'm experiencing anger, what is this about? I need to go bounce around, I need to go scream into a pillow. I need to go beat up my what's that called Steering wheel. It's been a long time since I've driven. You know, whatever that is, that you need to express and get your anger out cool. But that doesn't, you will start to catch yourself.

Speaker 2:

So that's where I say, like, give yourself some grace, because you are learning a new habit you are putting into place new, probably neurological, processes Do you know what I mean? But definitely you're starting to pay attention to how you feel. Beautiful. I mean thank you Absolutely. I mean that totally all goes back to connecting to yourself and how you do that and why it's important. You will start to understand who you are the more you ask yourself what you want and vice versa. It's like one of those like recycle little arrows and start paying attention, and so that's why it's important, because you are here to live your life and there is.

Speaker 2:

It's hard to embrace the reality of this, but everything is awesome. Louise Hay, abraham Hicks, they say all is well. That sounds like old lady speak to me, and so I'm just going to tell you everything is awesome. And then you're like BS Julia, look at what's going on in the world, look at our political structure, look at this, look at this, look at all this bills that just passed that I'm against, or whatever it is. You're right, that doesn't feel awesome. But all there is in this universe for you, for any of us, for all of us, is well-being.

Speaker 2:

There is only awesome for you, and you can choose to focus on the parts that don't feel good, that you don't agree with, and you're going to continue to feel worse and worse and worse. Yeah, or you can notice that stuff and voice your dissent, voice your disagreement with it. Oh my gosh, I don't like that. This is happening. I wish that this were different, but I'm not going to focus on wishing it were different, because that's me focusing on it being bad.

Speaker 2:

That doesn't feel good either, and so what you do is you acknowledge it, you express those feelings, like you said, whatever you need to do, and then you shift your focus to the parts of your reality that do feel good, that make you feel better. Because what's going to happen? Law of attraction is going to bring more of that into your experience, which means law of attraction is bringing that more into the experience of the people in your life, which means law of attraction is bringing more of that into the universe. Instead of focusing on the hate because you hate it, instead of focusing on the hate because you hate it, focus on, realize it, see it, don't dig your head in the sand, yeah, and shift your focus and make sure, because you are here this is what I started to say you came into this existence to expand the universe by receiving the things that you want, by seeing the differences and the diversity in choices and the things that you can have, and choosing what you want and realizing what you want, because it feels good to be getting the things that you want and then, once you have them, that feels good, and then it feels good to think about more, and then it feels good and literally your one job is to feel good because that's all there is for you.

Speaker 2:

Don't be distracted by what else is going on. See it, voice your concern, express your empathy and move forward, because what you are literally doing is generating more goodness and more love for the world as well as yourself. You are expanding the universe in a more positive way, in a more loving, joy-filled way, which is, again, all there truly is. It's hard to embrace I said that when I started talking, but it is absolutely true the more we stay in resistance even if it's resisting something that you believe is filled with hate, it's still resistance, and so you want to make sure that you are flowing with the actual energies of the universe, which are nothing but awesomeness, nothing but well-being, nothing but love and joy, and when you can get to a space in your mind and in your life where you are experiencing gratitude. In your life, where you are experiencing gratitude, gratitude is the emotion that is closest to your true self.

Speaker 2:

Gratitude is the closest thing to source energy, and when you focus on your gratitude I think we've talked about this I remember walking down the street and just being so overwhelmed with gratitude that I was crying, because it was like I couldn't contain the gratitude I couldn't contain because that just makes me feel more joyful about all that I have and about all the things that I'm grateful for, even if it's just the beautiful sky and the trees, and like, oh my gosh, it's overwhelming. That is source energy. That is you in absolute, complete embrace with source energy, not just aligned but like being and in awe of all that there is, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that feeling, that is the best feeling and it feels so great because it is the closest we can physically get to source energy to God.

Speaker 1:

Oh, julia, thank you so much for coming on. I knew you had a message for us. I was literally in the shower and I'm like I need to ask Julia to be on the show. She has a message and beautiful, beautiful messages that you shared with us today. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2:

I want to. I'm going to be bold and not ask you first, but like I would love for people who hear this between now and your next live, I would love to join your next live myself and and like they can start messaging you questions now so that we know what we're getting into, or be there at the live so that we can answer some questions about some of the very big things that we've covered today, the things that are hard to wrap your head around, the things that maybe you just don't understand and want more information about, whatever that is.

Speaker 1:

Beautiful. Thank you. The podcast community lives are on Fridays at 10 am Pacific, so I will get the message out after this airs. This is going to air tomorrow, so perfect, yeah, I will do that. And how can people connect with you if they're interested in receiving a healing?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, I would love that. Well, obviously, the podcast is Life After Breath and that's everywhere. Whatever you listen to your podcast on, you can find me, and then my website is juliacristinehealercom and you can schedule appointments right then and there, or just read more about what we do, what those are like. Read a little bit more about me and my background, so.

Speaker 1:

Awesome.

Speaker 2:

That's how, juliacristinehealercom oh thank you so much.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, it was a pleasure to have you back. I know it's been a while. Next time it won't be so long. No, okay, cool, I'm happy to come back anytime. Yeah, no, thank you. Thank you absolutely so much. I really truly appreciate and adore you so.

Speaker 2:

I love you too.

Speaker 1:

I love you. We will chat soon.

Speaker 2:

Right, bye, go kick ass.

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