Embracing Your Spiritual Gifts with Belle Casale: Trusting Your Intuition and Your Path

In this magical and juicy conversation, I welcome back intuitive channel and energy healer Belle Casale to explore the beauty and mystery of spiritual gifts - how they awaken, evolve, and guide us home to ourselves.  Belle shares her personal journey from energetic sensitivity and overwhelm to empowerment, as she learned to discern what energy was hers and how to work with her gifts through the GeoLoveHealing modality. 

✨ Connect with Belle:
Belle Casale is a gifted intuitive, channeler and energy healer, certified the GeoLoveHealing modality. Her healing sessions are both powerful and profound. Filled with vivid, dreamlike imagery and striking details, clients and fellow healers alike describe Belle's sessions as magical. She holds sacred space for you to experience lots of love and whatever you need right now, wherever you are on your own spiritual and growth journey. As a Prism of Source, Belle reflects the "Glory of God" back to you to help you recognize and remember the Source deep within yourself and your own, unique blend of magic and gifts to joyfully share with the world. Called to connect or book a session with Belle? You can connect with her via her social media: Instagram, TikTok, & Facebook — @OpalAuraHealing.  Belle is honored to serve you! If you'd like to schedule a session with Belle, you may do so at this link:  https://scheduler.zoom.us/opalaurahealing-with-belle-casale **Reach out for weekends or groups.

✨ Reflection Questions: Where have I recently felt an intuitive “ping,” and what happened when I followed (or ignored) it? What evidence can I jot down to strengthen my trust? * In the last week, when did I notice energy that wasn’t mine? What boundary, shield, or clearing practice could I use next time to stay connected to myself?* If my gifts are allowed to evolve, what might that look like right now? What’s one playful action I can take this week that says, “I trust my path”?

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Chapters

• 1:56 Welcome, 11/11 Magic, Guest Intro
• 4:31 What Is Geo Love Healing
• 6:25 Early Sensitivity And Lockdown Awakening
• 8:59 Feeling Others’ Energy Versus Your Own
• 13:07 Shields, Boundaries, And Grounding Tools
• 17:03 Mentors, Learning, And Building Intuition
• 21:52 Channeling Explained And The Clairs
• 26:06 How Gifts Unfold And Evolve
• 30:21 Comparison Traps And Divine Timing
• 33:17 Everyday Intuition And Trust Practices
• 38:10 Tech Glitches, Energy, And Patience
• 41:21 Community, Support, And Feeling Normal
• 45:15 Childhood Signs And Reopening Gifts
• 50:17 Card Pull: Trust And Choose Fun
• 54:43 Final Reflections And How To Connect

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:58

Welcome back to the Pure Possibilities Podcast. I'm your host, Shannon. I'm a trauma-informed identity and empowerment coach, energy healer, and creator of the Magic of What If Collection. My work blends neuroscience, energetics, and somatic healing to help you reconnect with your body, regulate your nervous system, and remember who you truly are beyond all of the noise and the chaos going on outside of you. Today I have a very special treat for you, and the timing is absolutely magical. I didn't quite plan it this way, but it just turns out that it's releasing on 1111. So magical and beautiful. Today I'm joined once again by my dear friend Belle, a gifted intuitive channeler and certified geo love healing practitioner whose sessions are nothing short of magical. In our last conversation, we explored spirit guides, and it was one of the most listened-to episodes. So I assumed that you must want more Belle. So I invited her back to the show. Today we're diving into spiritual gifts, how they show up, evolve, and what it really means to trust your intuition and your path. It's quite interesting when you get two energy healers together. The energy is a little bit off the charts. And so we actually had a couple of audio issues throughout the episode, but it was such a juicy episode. I really want you to hear it. So please bear with us through a few of the audio difficulties that we encountered when I talked about what it's like to come into your gifts from sensing others' emotions to seeing visions, hearing messages, and truly learning how to discern what's yours versus what you might be picking up energetically from others. We also discussed what to do when your gifts shift or quiet down, how to stay grounded in your journey, and why you are never ever doing it wrong. As always, I'll pull up magic of what if card at the end. And today's message is a powerful one about trusting your path and inviting more fun into your life. I've also included some reflection questions for you this week in the show description. And I will also link our prior episode in there as well. We hope you enjoy today's episode. Let's dive in. It is so good to have you back, Belle. Thank you so much for joining us again. And for those who may not have caught our last episode about spirit guides, can you share a little bit about who you are and what kind of energy work you do?

SPEAKER_01: 3:43

So I am an energy healer trained in geo-love healing. I am working on level three, the master level right now. And in our previous conversation, we were chatting about spirit guides. I am the channel. So I often will be speaking with my own spirit team and sometimes a you know a group if I'm working on a group session or an individual spirit team and working with them to proceed with the healing and give the person or group whatever they need for the highest it of all.

SPEAKER_00: 4:18

Excellent. So how would you, if people are unfamiliar with what a geo love healer is, like how is that different from say doing breake energy healings?

SPEAKER_01: 4:28

I have not received a Reiki healing, so I can't speak to that experience. I know they are similar in some ways, as in we do work with the chakras, however, we're mostly working with speaker geometry as opposed to their methodology. So it is an entirely different methodology of energy stealing.

SPEAKER_00: 4:50

Yeah, I think that I mean, obviously, I'm also certified as a geo love healer. Um, and I also have a Reiki master certification, and they are definitely very different, but I love that the geo healing incorporates the sacred geometry because it's it's pretty magical. And you are an incredible healer. I have had the lovely experience of having healings from you.

SPEAKER_01: 5:17

Thank you so much. I love when people call me magical.

SPEAKER_00: 5:22

It makes me happy. Oh, good, good. So do you remember? So we had kind of chatted about talking about um spiritual gifts today. And I'm curious, when did you first start recognizing and realizing that you had spiritual gifts? And what was that, what was that experience like for you?

SPEAKER_01: 5:46

How far back do I go? For many years, people kept telling me I needed to work on chakras. I don't remember if we touched on this on our first conversation, and it was a very particular chakra, it was a problem area for me, and then they would just kind of disappear into a crowd. It was very strange. It happened a couple times. And I'd been interested in intuition and that type of stuff. I've been a gemstone lover a long time, so I am into the visual and metaphysical properties of gemstones and minerals, I love them. So the energy healing, in a way, is like a natural progression. And I've been sensitive my whole life, and it wasn't until lockdown, actually, for me, that I really began to understand and need needed to know more because I was just suffering so much. Yeah. And I just knew I needed something drastically different to help me and go more into that if you want to get into my uh origin story if you wish.

SPEAKER_00: 6:52

Yeah, yeah, go ahead. I I think people would be really interested. And especially like you said that you you were in a lot of suffering before, and now I mean, what would you say has been the expansion and like how you've moved through that? I assume you're not suffering as you were then now. Is that a correct assumption?

SPEAKER_01: 7:14

That is correct. Okay. Part of that is human life. Yeah. You know, situations come up. However, I have a lot more tools now to navigate a lot of those challenges. So going back in time, back to lockdown. Since everyone was basically stuck at home, you know, it was really it was a lot of collective fear that I was feeling fear, anxiousness, worry, stress, and all of that was on top of my own. I've always been very sensitive my whole life. I'd say my family's sensitive too. And so I, you know, got that from the fan.

SPEAKER_00: 7:58

And can I interrupt you for a second? So, how did you know that you were taking on the energy of others rather than it just being your own?

SPEAKER_01: 8:07

If I don't pay attention to it, I can feel other people's energy as mine, and it doesn't feel good. It's one of those things where you sometimes need to be feeling good, and all of a sudden you're hit with a wave of irritation. What? Why am I irritated? And it turns out, particularly if it's somebody in you know in your household like visiting or whatever, so and so is really irritated and you're picking up on it. It you don't have to be in the same household. I can potentially feel people, you know, while they're just out and about.

SPEAKER_00: 8:37

That's so interesting because I mean, I I am familiar with that feeling, but I I imagine that a lot of people don't realize that that is a gift and it can be, I mean, it can be a good gift, or you know, I don't know how I want to say this, but do you know what I mean? Like if you're if you're unaware that you're taking on other people's energy, if you don't necessarily know how to clear that or put a protection around you, that that could be not not, I don't want to say an interesting experience, but just like you could be taking on other people's energy and not realizing that it's not yours and that there is actually something that you could do about it.

SPEAKER_01: 9:23

That's what I experience. Yeah. It's no, it's not easy, it can be brutal. So a lot of people on the positive side, a lot of people will feel this when they go to if they're a sports fan, if they go to a sports game or if you're into music and you go to a concert, that high vibration that everybody gets when they're all excited can totally anybody can pick up on that. So even if you're don't feel you're very sensitive, pretty much everybody feels on the audience. All excited, we get each other more excited, and it you know ramps up and up and up.

SPEAKER_00: 9:55

Yeah, that's a really good example. Um, especially, especially with like concerts and sporting events. Those are great examples because I I don't know that people always recognize because everything is energy, and we are all energetic beings having a human experience. And also, you know, you think about how energy does transmit, whether it's, you know, you pick up on somebody's more negative energy. And also, I mean, I talk about this a lot too, and how the energy that you bring to a room, the energy that you bring to a concert, the energy that you bring to a sporting event, all of those. I mean, you really do feel that immensely.

SPEAKER_01: 10:35

And it makes it difficult for me to be in crowds because I would feel everybody. I didn't know it at the time. I didn't understand that ever took most of my life to figure that out. Yeah, I thought it was just me being sensitive. So I'd often go home with a headache. And you know, like feeling people's because it it's it's intense, right? So if you're in a room with several hundred or thousands of people in a building, that's that's a lot. That's a lot of energy. I was getting headaches and migraines, and like it can be other feelings too, like it could be aches and pains, or just feeling stressed and heavy, even though you're also excited. It's a strange sensation. You can feel a lot of things at once.

SPEAKER_00: 11:21

Is there a certain practice that you do to like if you do go into a say a setting like that, and then you go home and you feel that headache or you feel you know ill, is there something specific that you do to clear and cleanse that?

SPEAKER_01: 11:38

I usually aim for prevention first.

SPEAKER_00: 11:41

Okay. So you take a proactive approach rather than the reactive.

SPEAKER_01: 11:45

Yes. Reactive. I do that as needed, but sometimes it's you're you're already gonna be getting at the way. So one of the greatest first lessons I learned was about fielding or blocking.

SPEAKER_00: 12:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 12:02

And what that is is really setting up an energetic boundary so that I feel my feelings and I'm not experiencing other people's feelings. So for some people they think blocking or shielding is bad and negative because you're not connecting to others. However, if you're totally connected like I was, it's it's too much. You can't be that all the time. There's too many times you want to feel that. That's okay. But being more in control of it has been life-changing.

SPEAKER_00: 12:30

Oh, I bet. Well, and you you can still connect to others without being energetically connected to that. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 12:43

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 12:45

So, do you feel like people experience fear or confusion when these spiritual gifts start coming through them? And what would you say to someone that was like in that stage of their spiritual awakening?

SPEAKER_01: 13:05

If you're early on, get yourself a mentor, even if it's free off YouTube to start, read some books that call to you so that you're beginning to understand some of these things. Yeah. I started with books, I didn't find that enough. So I ended up doing you know, a classic book that would go online. And I found that made all the difference. So that that was incredible. So books are still a great starting point, and I'd still recommend them. I still enjoy reading and audiobooks too. So that you have some place to get started because it's incredibly difficult to do on your own 100% of the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 13:55

Yeah, it it's interesting. I mean, I would say that my gifts have continued to develop over the years and more and more every day. And I I feel like when it started, I didn't I didn't recognize that that was what it was, you know. Especially like I have I'm very intuitive and I have like this inner knowing of things all the time. And I didn't really understand it before. I mean, there's so many different types of spiritual gifts that we can have. I mean, I would definitely say I'm a channel too. You said you're also a channel.

SPEAKER_01: 14:33

Yes, that's one of my main gifts, which made a lot of sense for me. Yeah. Just knowing that I have a creative background, so a lot of things will just flow out of me. It was like a big, oh yeah, that clicks.

unknown: 14:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 14:48

So how would you describe being a channel? Like for people that may not know what that is.

SPEAKER_01: 14:55

But spiritual energies flow through me, and I use them to communicate with my spirit team. And when I say spirit team, I'll reiterate this again. I include my higher selves and highest self, my ancestors, animal spirit guides, friends or family that I've passed on, soul family. Pretty much everybody that's highest beings of love and light, angels, archangels, anybody that's coming in to help me. I work with theirs as well. And share messages. And sometimes it it comes out as as light language.

SPEAKER_00: 15:45

And I feel like we I feel like we talked about this a little bit before, and like and then that's coming through to you. You see a lot of vision in your mind's eye, like you see images, right?

SPEAKER_01: 15:59

So I while I'm mostly invisible, I also can sometimes hear, so I have the clear audience. I will sometimes feel in terms of physical feelings in the body. I can emote, so I can feel the emotional feelings, and I will sometimes have the I forget what it's called, but it's the the old term for it, but it's clear smelling.

SPEAKER_00: 16:24

So you'll start to smell different scents. Yeah, it does sound strange, but it is a spiritual gift, and maybe it doesn't sound strange to me because like I have been in spaces where like all of a sudden I smell lilacs, and that was like my grandmother's favorite flower. Or there was one time I was walking down the road, like outside, I was just out on a walk, and I like smelled cologne, like there was nobody around me. And it reminded me of a certain person, and I'm like, that is wild.

SPEAKER_01: 17:00

That's a common one that it smells that the smell will be the perfume or cologne or favorite, you know, flower scent of somebody who's important to you that's passed on. Yeah. Uh one of the funniest ones that happened to me was I was receiving, I was doing an exchange with a classmate, and I was receiving a healing, and I was so confused because this was uh an evening healing exchange, and I kept smelling coffee. But while I drink coffee sometimes, I typically back then I don't drink coffee at night, it would keep me awake. And my husband gonna drink coffee, says, Where is this coffee smell coming from? Is it the neighbor drinking coffee and it's just lofting in? How is this happening? Turns out my beloved healer buddy was really craving coffee really bad.

SPEAKER_00: 17:48

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01: 17:50

I smell them, so we got a good laugh about it.

SPEAKER_00: 17:53

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Spiritual gifts are so fascinating to me. So I guess I kind of jumped ahead because I get all excited about this. So let's go back, let's go back to when you first came into your gifts. And I guess if you could just share a little bit about how that journey has kind of gone. Because I know that I mean, we've been friends for a couple of years now, and so I've witnessed part of your your growth and expansion. But like how has that how has that continued to develop for you?

SPEAKER_01: 18:28

Well, a lot of people tend to be honestly shocked when I explain and I come back from a healing and I share what I share because for some people they just get a very different experience. So for me, it started with my first ever energy healing. It started with swirling colors, two different colors swirling into each other and pain bouncing through my body. And that's an experience for about an hour. And I came out of it wondering uh how and is is this it? Is this an experience of people? So I came out of it like, what the hell? You know, and honestly, a few healings were like that, the first handful, and then I started to experience more from there. So it was a slow progression of the colors, my animal spirit guides were ready, they came in, so I started to see them and meet them and interact with them, and then the other experiences started to come in. So it was, you know, sometimes I would feel something. So I remember in my uh first Geo1, I was performing a healing and I kept feeling something on my cheek. I kept touching my cheek, it felt like like a piece of dust. So I thought maybe I had a dust bunny that landed on my cheek. And I kept touching my cheek, and I realized, oh, that's that's not dust, it's not physical. It was one of my angels, they had an angel feather and they were touching my cheek very gently to get my attention. Wow. And it was just a knowing that came in. There was nothing on the ground I was looking to see if I touched anything. There was nothing physical around me. And I did it a couple times to get my attention.

SPEAKER_00: 21:15

I think that's so important to, I think it's really important to recognize that everyone, everyone has spiritual gifts and they also come through very differently for people. And one person's one, you know, when one person receives their gifts one way and somebody else another way, it doesn't mean either is right or wrong. You're just receiving in your own way. Because like I know, like your healings are absolutely magical. And I remember the first time that you did a healing on me and you came back and you told me it was like we were in a magical forest, and you were telling me the story of all of these fairies and this adventure that we went on. And I was like, Oh my gosh, like I my healings aren't like that, and that's okay, but yours are beyond the beyond, so magical.

SPEAKER_01: 22:15

I do enjoy them. But my point is when I come back and people are shocked about that, it didn't start out that way. And then when people know that, a lot of time they go, Oh, okay, that makes me feel a lot better. You know, like the there's this assumption that, oh, well, I don't get all this wild, crazy stuff, bell gets and doing it wrong. No, you're not, you're not doing it wrong. You're starting where you're starting. I didn't start there.

SPEAKER_00: 22:38

Yeah. Well, and absolutely, and I think that that's also an important message that I would like everyone to receive today is that it can develop over time and it is different for everyone, which is why I think it's really helpful in spaces like this where people are able to share their own experiences. So people don't feel alone in whatever their spiritual gifts are that are coming through, in case they are experiencing something more similar to what you experience, or if they're experiencing it similar to the way I do, because I remember having multiple conversations with, you know, I mean, I still continue to have conversations with friends, you know, like, what do you think this means, or what do you think that means, or however different ways things are coming through? And I think it's great to be able to be supportive of one another on our spiritual journeys.

SPEAKER_01: 23:34

And I don't think I'd be able to do it without spiritual friends. I came to realize that pretty quickly because who else can you talk about this with? You're gonna sound a bit like a crazy person if you go up to a neighbor who has no idea about energy anything, you're like, So you're you know, your aunt that passed away last week, she has a message for you. Like, whoa.

SPEAKER_00: 23:54

Yeah, you never know how people are gonna respond. But I also feel like people that are very into their spirituality and their gifts are also drawn to one another. Like I was I was connecting with someone um recently and we were having a conversation. I was like, oh my gosh, this connection makes way more sense to me now because of the spiritual element. And it was it was fascinating. It was fascinating.

SPEAKER_01: 24:28

I think it will probably continue to happen more so because you are continuing your spiritual development. Yeah. So that means your senses are getting more attuned and sensitive to help you out. So that means you and your you know, soul family you'll be able to ping each other and say like, oh, we need to need to meet this person. And you know what I mean? It'll be like, oh, this new contact will be like, hey, you know, I'm at this event with your friend, and can you introduce me to her? I just have this weird feeling to talk. And boom, you have this new contact.

SPEAKER_00: 24:59

Absolutely. Well, and I think that's another important point is that how we how we do connect and you start to get drawn into people. And when you have those, those are messages coming through, right? Like when you feel that impulse or that you know call to connect with someone, that is a gift, and I don't know that people always recognize that.

SPEAKER_01: 25:26

No, and I think generations ago it wasn't really spoken about like a gift. I know for my grandmother, one of them in particular, the family learned over time. At first it was, oh, you know, she's just making things up, and then over time it was, oh no, if she has something to share and she has a bad feeling about somebody, we need to listen.

SPEAKER_00: 25:49

Yeah. Well, and I mean, I guess, you know, we refer to them as spiritual gifts, but they're also just it's part of who we are, and it's that opening, allowing ourselves to be open to receiving that part of ourselves. Do you agree?

SPEAKER_01: 26:13

Right. So ancestors can literally give you gifts that they had in life. That's definitely happened to me with one of my gifts. So that was pretty neat.

SPEAKER_00: 26:28

That is pretty neat. So do you have days where like your gifts feel quieter and like harder to access than other days? And if so, how do you navigate through that?

SPEAKER_01: 26:43

Yeah, I think it depends on where's our attention, what are we doing for self-care, what are we eating, because you know, where are we? Environment. There's a lot of factors that influence these things. And if you're you're home and you're having a great day, that's all well and good. However, it's time to pull the two box if you're having a bad day. That's actually been a theme that I periodic will be discussing with friends because you know, when we take these awesome classes, when it ends, that's really the the lesson that when we're having our tough day or an awesome day, that we use the tools we learned and help ourselves feel better and more connected. Yeah. So I'm happy to give some examples. Oh, please. I don't know if I lost you.

SPEAKER_00: 27:36

Oh, I'm here. You kind of froze for a second. But you're you seem to be here now.

SPEAKER_01: 27:44

I think the energy is high, so it's not my internet. Actually, when I was going through the the live week for the class, my earphones that I'm using are wireless. The class of the energy was so intense it kept draining my earphones multiple times. Oh my gosh. And so we got a good laugh about it. Guys, we're draining my earphones, come on. But it kept happening because we were just in that really intensive energy. And what happens when I have strong, strong energy in you know, phone calls or doing meetings like this? Right. So what I was saying was when you're having a day where you don't really feel connected, that's when it's time to pull out the toolbox. So that's hopefully what works for you. You can try something that maybe in the class you didn't feel drawn to it. Maybe now you're like, oh, I definitely want to try that. So it could be anything from you know, clearing yourself with a salt bath or having a bite of chocolate. It could be listening to relaxing music or those what do they call the sulfur ghetto or the viral beats, things like that that guided meditation. Anything that that works to help you feel more connected again? Breathing, breathing exercises tend to be really helpful for anybody on the go.

SPEAKER_00: 29:11

No, absolutely. Well, and I mean, honestly, in any whether you're on a spiritual journey or you're working through past trauma or a lot of the work that I do with people, you know, any kind of growth journey, honestly, that that self-care is exceptionally important during that time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 29:39

And also remember that not every day needs to be perfect, and that's okay too. That's part of our journey. That sometimes helps me because it's you know, that phrase it's it's a marathon, not a sprint. Yeah. I've had the song it's uh called One Step at a Time by Jordan Sparks has popped up for me. I love that song. Channeled channeled message and reminder for myself and others have popped up several times when I'm trying to push myself too fast and hard. Yeah. Yeah, it's a wonderful song.

SPEAKER_00: 30:12

Yeah, it it's really good to move the energy too.

SPEAKER_01: 30:18

Shaping the body. I was doing that earlier, you know, crap pulling conversation, actually.

SPEAKER_00: 30:24

Me too. I was dancing and shaking. I was dancing too. Also a great way to regulate, great way to regulate the nervous system. So obviously, like I imagine that a lot of the listeners of the show aren't necessarily going to be teaching, um, teaching people about energy or doing actual healings on people. So beyond like a formal session or someone that wants to dive into spiritual work, how do you how do you feel like people can use their gifts in everyday life, even if they're not like specifically going down a career path for that?

SPEAKER_01: 31:05

Well, you definitely want to go down a career path for that because these gifts are natural and part of us. So they are meant to help you on your your journey, your soul path, whatever you want to call it. So let's say as an example, somebody is a florist and they love working with flowers, and that's that's their thing, whether they do, you know, energy class or receive energy games or not. They can still use their love of you know, flowers and flora ranging in their everyday life. That is tied to a lot of natural gifts, I would say, and sensitivities, you know, intuition, emotions. Maybe they're they're able to use gifts like yours where they they know, oh well, they mentioned you know, so and so colors. But I really feel like this maybe it's the meaning of a certain flower will be perfect for that that arrangement. Or yeah, you know, I'll add a little extra message on this one because I feel like a person needs it, or things like that. You can totally use your intuition and other guests in the everyday and have it help you. They're they're meant to help us and make our lives more useful and joyful. Yes. And keep us alive and healthy.

SPEAKER_00: 32:23

Yes, absolutely. So let's talk a little bit more about intuition because I fully believe that everyone is intuitive and it's about whether or not we actually listen. And how what would be your recommendation, I guess, on helping people to tap into their intuition and trust it?

SPEAKER_01: 32:49

Trusting comes with time because even now I sometimes question it. Uh-huh. I think that's pretty normal. My mentors have mentioned they still question it too. And it's just, it comes with practice. So it can take, you know, a lifetime of you know, having moments where you question it, and some days where you're just like, all right, I'll just go with it. And I think that's kind of normal. And I'd say it's a practice. So you can start to use it for little things like, all right, intuition, what circle should I go with today? Or, you know, what color pen do I want to use today? Like little things, no, no pressure, no big deal things.

SPEAKER_00: 33:27

And then no life-changing things, just like little.

SPEAKER_01: 33:31

And after you feel like you got that, you can continue to do those, of course. You can go to more medium-level things, like what you know, what food do I want to eat, what job do I want to apply for? Uh, what colors do I want to apply for? Or or school, you know, those type of things. What car do I want to buy? Bigger ticket things, and then you know, the big life removed. I want to buy, um, do I want to marry this partner? That that type of life-changing important stuff. So you don't have to jump into that, wouldn't you recommend that? Right.

SPEAKER_00: 34:08

I do. Well, and then because you start to trust yourself, because then you you're giving yourself that evidence from that small thing. So then when over time, yeah, over time, when the big choices come into play and you st you've started to trust yourself more because the little things prove to you, I guess, because as humans we like evidence, right?

SPEAKER_01: 34:34

Speaking of, I would also recommend that whether you handwrite it or type it into your phone or your computer to document these so you have them to refer back to later. So you can remember, oh yeah, I I did that. That was my intuition, and it worked out awesome. So that you're not doing that thing where you pull doubt in and you're like, what? That wasn't a thing that you did. Yes, you did.

SPEAKER_00: 34:58

That is an excellent reminder because as we all continue on our path, whether it's just our own personal journey or you know, whatever path we're on, it's it's our path. And resistance comes up and fear comes up and doubt comes up. And so to have that documented so that you can go back and remind yourself, because the first thing that's gonna happen is you're gonna start saying, Oh, no, no, no, no, I I can't do this. I I'm not gonna be able to do it or whatever. But then when you can go back and see that evidence for yourself and remind yourself, that's that's excellent guidance. Excellent guidance. Because that happens to all of us.

SPEAKER_01: 35:42

It does.

unknown: 35:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 35:43

I also have a whole story about following your intuition that I've been wanting to share something like that. At least I think it's hilarious. So my husband and I were moving, so we had most of our stuff out of our old place, and we were heading back to the old place to grab some more stuff. And all morning I kept having this king of bring utensils. And I was like, what the why? Like we had plans to get some food, and while we were at the old place and continuing to pack up some of the last items, and I was like, sure, I guess, whatever. And so I went through my day and um, you know, we were heading out, and I grabbed, I think I grabbed drinks and service or something. And I forgot the utensils. And so we we made it to our place, we were packing some stuff, we ordered food and requested utensils with it. I'd forgotten about that whole thing this morning. And our food arrived, we ordered Indian. Guess what was missing from the bag with everything else, including napkins? The utensils. Yes, so we had to use some that we had left over, which was it was just ridiculous. It was like one tiny knife and like the tiniest little spoon and a fork to be able to like eat our meal. So we had a good laugh, like a good belly laugh about how ridiculous it was. But it was really like a wow, bell, you you could have uh spared spared yourselves a lot of you know irritation with just even some chopsticks would have been helpful to toss in your bag that you forgot.

SPEAKER_00: 37:27

So it's like that's hilarious. So and another reminder for yourself of oh, hey, I maybe it would be good to you know listen when I get those pings.

SPEAKER_01: 37:37

It was a really strong ping. And now, you know, looking back, it's like that's because for some reason I was not getting utensils from someone.

SPEAKER_00: 37:48

So when you say that you got a ping, and that was way earlier in the day, like how did that come through for you?

SPEAKER_01: 37:56

Well, sometimes it's it's just uh a knowing, and it will come in as like a phrase and this was make sure you have utensils, bring utensils with you when you go back to the old place to be when you're packing up for a meal, and I was just like, sure, whatever, and I blew it off, and then what are the consequences because in this, but it is you know, pretty liquidy. So it's like, yeah, yeah, having normal adult size utensils would have been helpful, right?

SPEAKER_00: 38:31

For sure. Yeah, I mean, I guess I get messages like that sometimes too. And it's just like I'll be walking out of the house and it's like, oh, did you remember? You know, it's it's for like it's a thought that comes up. Oh, did you remember? Did you turn off the did you turn off your flat iron? And then I'll turn around and go back up and check. But I think yeah, I mean, I think sometimes people are quick to dismiss that, not really understanding, maybe. I mean, maybe I'm off base with that, but what do you think?

SPEAKER_01: 39:02

Because sometimes it's it's actually very important and it's it's actually to save your life. Like if somebody gets a ping, like, hey, make sure you shut off the oven before you head out the door today, it's probably to keep you alive and safe and keep all your items in your house safe and not going to a crisp.

SPEAKER_00: 39:19

No, absolutely. I remember I was I was going to a friend's birthday party one time and I stopped to grab something at the store and I ended up cutting my finger. And so it like, it delayed me to going to where I needed, you know, it delayed my travel to get to where I was trying to go. And then I found out that there was like, and it like rerouted me or something. I don't remember exactly the whole story, but I just remembered that that happened and it delayed me. And then I found out that there was an accident on the path that I was gonna be going. And so then I totally bypassed it because I was delayed with hurting myself. And, you know, sometimes people get stuck in traffic or whatever, and are often so quick to get upset that they're running late or whatever. And a lot of times that is like saving you from something bad happening.

SPEAKER_01: 40:14

Well, I'm sorry that you cut yourself, but I'm glad you you listen to your intervention. And that is something that I've actually heard quite a bit happening that a lot of times traffic or you know, you something happens and you're either early or late to do something, or you can't go at all, is to keep you safe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 40:33

I always think about that when my flights are delayed when I'm traveling. Like I'm grateful for this flight delay because who knows, you know, it's happening because this is the way it's meant to happen, and I will get to where I'm meant to be when I'm meant to be there.

SPEAKER_01: 40:48

Exactly. Since you know, we have holidays coming up and a lot of people we travel. It's a good reminder. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00: 40:56

Pack your patience and remember that those delays are happening to keep you safe. Yes. So is there anything else that you would like to share about spiritual gifts or anything else you want to talk about that is coming up for you?

SPEAKER_01: 41:13

Yes, I feel like there's a lot of different things we could talk about. One of them is not comparing yourself to your fellow classmates or your friends as you know, as minimal or not at all as possible, and though it can be hard. Because I've had you know, fellow peelers, some some of them only feel or usually only feel uh some of them it's it's knowing, some of them will just you know, they'll feel emotions or hot or cold most of the time. Yeah, it's interesting with with me that sometimes they will and quite often experience more than they're usual. That's part of part of and tied to my gifts, which is always kind of fun. It seems like, oh, I get some new stuff, or oh, I've got to see way more than I usually do. That's always exciting to me here.

SPEAKER_00: 42:02

Yeah, but yeah, because your your gifts and who you are pulls like also draws that out of others. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 42:12

So my energy being as expansive as it is helps others expand their gifts. So that happened with you actually, didn't it? Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_00: 42:23

I'm pretty sure it does every time we connect.

SPEAKER_01: 42:27

It happens pretty often with a lot of people I work with, not every single person, but a lot. Like it's become a noticeable thing until I realize, oh, it's a thing I can do. Right. So to not not compare like your journey to others and your gifts to others as minimally as possible because you're on your own path and your gifts are expanding on divine time, and you will likely, particularly if you really want to, get to you know where you want to go. So if you do want to see or feel more, you want to hear, you know, it's probably in the works. You're probably working on it right now, right? It's not instant. I mean, sometimes I wish it was, but a lot of times it needs to be in this transitional period where it seems like nothing's changing and it's energetically changing. Right. To our humans and the human brain, it seems the same. We're slow moving.

SPEAKER_00: 43:25

And our human brain always wants it to go faster than than the divine timing that it's meant to be.

SPEAKER_01: 43:32

Yeah. One of the things that I had wanted to say in our last session, it came out screaming, and I just didn't say it probably. I will say it now. So that message that wanted to come come through screaming was trust yourself. And so when you're working on your spiritual awakening and expansion of your gifts and opening up of new gifts, is to trust yourself and keep at it because this process is, as I said, it's more of a marathon, not a sprint. And sometimes it's also, you know, it's meant to be fun. Sometimes we do get those, oh wow, a new gift opened instantly. Sometimes somebody's gift will immediately open yours. That did happen with me with light language. So light codes can come in in other ways too, so they don't have to come in through spoken or some language. It could be through movement, like dancing, it could be through writing or music or other ways. And to allow your journey to be unique and special like for you, and trusting that you know, source has your back, your spirit team has your back, you're you're not doing it wrong, you're not moving too slow, you're not these things too far. Yeah, you know, you give yourself more grace. These are things that I am seeing in others and myself. It's like the the lessons that I'm learning, I will often see near it in others. Not always, but a lot of the time.

SPEAKER_00: 44:59

Yeah. Do you see that? I do. And one thing that I've also noticed on my own path is that I feel like my gifts or like my intuition used to come through a way that like I knew that was my intuition speaking. And then as I have grown and developed and expanded, those messages are starting to come through differently. And so, like for a while, I was like, what's wrong with me? Like I can't hear my, I don't hear myself anymore. You know, I don't hear my intuition, I don't hear my higher self. And it's just, it's not that it's not there, it's that I'm receiving it differently than I used to and trusting that it didn't go anywhere. There's nothing wrong, but it's just being open to the different ways that it can come that it's coming through compared to because I'm growing and changing, it's not going to be the exactly as it was.

SPEAKER_01: 45:56

I wanted to go deeper into that. So it's perfect that you brought this up. So just like how sometimes different tools will work better on different days, gifts evolve and change too. So sometimes there's a bit of a almost a pullback of some of your gifts you're used to, so that new gifts can come in. So that can come in in a lot of different ways. So I remember after being activated, I pretty constantly had what people would would call tinnitus of the ears. Right. And for a long time it was very high-pitched and loud. And that's changed over the course of time to sometimes it's still like that. But now there's times where I don't really notice it at all, or sometimes it'll just be loud for a period of time, or sort of you know, soft, and it'll change as things come in. But if there's like a day where it's super loud or it's it's quiet, I don't have to like freak myself out. Or if I have a new gift coming online, it's I feel like it's really important to try not to freak yourself out, you know. Like the first time I heard sometimes I hear a clear audience, like if you're hearing somebody that can freak out a lot of people. Like they're gonna think, Oh my god, is a ghost talking to me? Like it could be, could be your intuition, could be your your higher self or a spirit guide speaking to you. So it's it's easy to scare yourself, you know, with oh my god, uh, how do I know this? You know, and that you're not realizing that you're talking to somebody's higher self on a spiritual level and reading their caustic record because it's important for you to have this specific like conversation and write that second. And that can freak out people. And it takes time to adjust to realizing this is just part of what I can do. This is normal for me, this is okay. Right in me to begin to, you know, kind of like relax into okay, I can practice with this, like this is good and normal, and this is a thing I can do.

SPEAKER_00: 48:01

And getting curious, okay, ooh, this is a new gift that's coming through, and how can I explore, you know, what's my next step, and what can I learn about this to allow it to expand more? But what I love what you said though is that that sometimes our gifts will kind of not go away, but like be more subtle so that the other ones can come forward. That's a really good point.

SPEAKER_01: 48:27

I'm seeing that happen like before my eyes. So it's just saying, and I'm like, oh, okay, witnessing this. Yeah. And also to remember that if you need to get frustrated, you can you know give yourself the permission to be frustrated because it can be annoying when you know you're if you have the uh certain gifts tied to electronics when your internet is crapping out. Because I definitely have those feelings, like it can be infuriating when you're trying to do stuff and your internet craps out for hours every day.

SPEAKER_00: 49:01

Yeah, there's so many. I mean, I don't even know if people realize that, like, yeah, the technology we can. I mean, even just as we're doing this recording, just the energy can can mess with the technology too.

SPEAKER_01: 49:14

Out of curiosity, let's see, do we have that? Let me see. Sometimes my Bluetooth headphones will change. Let's see, so I start to 100% 70% now. Sometimes they'll change in nonsensical percentages. Oh, really? Last night I was doing an exchange with somebody, and they went from 100% to 20%. I charged them for a short period of time, maybe half an hour or so, and they went to 70%. And then when we were talking, actively they were being used, they jumped up to 80%. Oh, wow. So it can be all over the place. It could be frustrating and weird, and it's like part of the process to navigate it.

SPEAKER_00: 49:57

Yeah. So is there any it was did you have something? I felt like you said you had a couple of things you wanted to mention.

SPEAKER_01: 50:07

Well, giving yourself grace has come up a lot for me. That, you know, letting go of perfectionism, like letting it be as messy as it needs to be, getting the support you need is helpful. So, you know, either making spiritual friends or you know, chatting with the ones that you you made is really helpful in grounding when you're going through some of these weird things because they're gonna understand. Even if they haven't experienced that exact situation personally, they're gonna get where you're coming from. Yeah. And I feel like that a lot of the time when you're not only early in your journey, but going through some weird new stuff, it's vital because besides, there's there's only so many people that you can chat with about this stuff that they're not gonna be too weirded out. Right. Like you gotta definitely for me, like having people that I can be like, oh hey, like this is happening, and like I want to talk about you know, this weird experience, and then you know, probably they're having another weird experience as we each are opening gifts, and it's it helps you feel more grounded and not like a crazy person. Remembering, yeah, this is real.

SPEAKER_00: 51:23

Yeah, and knowing that you're not alone, you know, ever. And that there are also other, you know, humans out there that are likely experiencing their own path and journey, and you can connect with them so that you I mean, I think that was one of my biggest things earlier on was I don't want people to think I'm crazy, you know. And when you find when you find your people, they don't think you're crazy.

SPEAKER_01: 51:52

It's funny you say that. I find that sometimes even spiritual people have moments of I still feel crazy. Can I share this with you know a class or can I share this with my spiritual friends? And to recognize that even somebody who's been doing it for years or many years might even have those moments that it's that is the normal part of the process to be like, oh, I feel extra crazy. Can I actually say this to someone out loud? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 52:21

No, that's that's a very, very good point. So I'm curious. I had someone else on the show a while back, and she had shared some experiences in childhood that eventually, like once she became an adult and worked through some trauma, her gifts came flooding in. Did you have any experiences of a child that made you, I guess, aware that like that maybe looking back now, you might be able to acknowledge that, oh, that happened when I was a kid. And that kind of makes more sense now that I know what I know now. Is my question coming across the right way? Do you understand?

SPEAKER_01: 53:02

Yeah. Okay. I I follow and picking up what you're putting down. Okay, good. There's a lot of things. So some of it is like the creativity that I have is part of my channeling. That's something I've had my whole life. Enough that people have noticed it my whole life from childhood through now. They're just sometimes they're shocked. So, you know, when I would like make something, they'd be like, What? Like, where did you come up with that? Often our creativity is from our intuition. So it was like, yeah, I was connected to that. And it's not it was normal for me, so I didn't think about it. But a friend was pretty shocked to realize that when I go out in in nature in public, there tends to be a lot of animals around. And if there aren't, like a Disney princess, it will appear. It will be noticeable and often, you know, interesting or funny or really cool. And it's so normal to me that I didn't really think about it. But I'm my energy is very in tune with animals, and some in particular. I love reptiles and amphibians in particular. So while a lot of people will say, ew, gross. I I love them, they love my energy. So yeah, it's so amusing to me that I've been since I was a child, whole life. You know, I went to different events where you can interact with different wildlife, and they'll hand me a snake, and the snake will wrap it around my neck or my arm, and the snake instantly will relax and you know hang out with me. And the adult will be like, Holy crap, like they they really like you. And it's happened with multiple snakes, multiple people, and they're like, How how are you doing this? Like, why does she really like you? Or how does he really like you? I don't usually see him this relaxed with kids, it happened as an adult too, and it's it's like with certain other animals too, an energetic connection that you have. Yeah, I think that they like my energy, so it's so funny that they'll just appear. Like I used to go for walks with my family, and there'd be a like a little like a boardwalk, but there'd be like a little bridge area with like a fence, and you could stand out on there. And pretty much all the time when I would stand out on there, snapping turtles would come out of the the pond. They don't normally come out to hang out with humans, but they would come out when I was there, like pretty much every time. Interesting. A lot of times, like birds or butterflies will pop out. It's really cool.

SPEAKER_00: 55:33

Did you have anything when you were a kid that like scared you that now you know was a spiritual gift coming through?

SPEAKER_01: 55:41

I was learning to tie my shoes as a very young child. I remember looking around, I was at my babysitter's house at the time, and I was very confused because I looked up and tying my shoes, and I saw animals, but it it didn't make sense because the animals were in the living room interacting with the furniture in a way that they shouldn't be because they were wild and like woodland animals. So I was let's say I was about three, I was looking around, there's like squirrels like on the floor running around, you know, birds flying through the living room, and you know, like a box turtle walking under a chair, and you know, things like that. That's like what what is happening? And I remember I told my mom about it, and she was like, she remembers it, and it's like looking back, I realized that that was tied to my gifts. It's not something people normally see. Right. It was something because kids are so sensitive, it's so open that you know, with my 3D eyes, I was able to use my third eye vision and see things.

SPEAKER_00: 56:54

Well, and that's I mean, that's the thing. I mean, one of the reasons why I asked that about your childhood is just because so many of us have so many gifts that end up getting shut down when we're kids because of things that we're told or it's not normal in society or things like that. And so we kind of like shove it down. And then as you as you, you know, grow and expand in whatever your healing journey is or your spiritual journey, those tend to start to come up and come out. And a lot of times we all had them when we were younger and maybe just didn't necessarily realize it, or we shut it down because of the way people were receiving it at the time.

SPEAKER_01: 57:38

Yes, that's still definitely happened. Although I have to say I'm blessed that since my family's sensitive, it was slightly like more normal to them. Yeah. Um, versus like for family friends or other kids, they would be like weirded out. Right. It was like, yep, I've been weirding out people my whole life. This isn't me.

SPEAKER_00: 57:56

So I always pull a card from the magic of what if card deck during every episode. And I don't always do it when I have a guest on, but for some reason I'm feeling called to pull a card with you here. What do you think? Okay, let's do it. I hope it's one that has the white magic in it. Okay, so I'm gonna pull from should I do deck one or deck two? I'm gonna let you choose. I got two. Two. Okay, that's the one that I have.

SPEAKER_01: 58:25

Yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's the one that popped in my head. I just let it come through and I was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 58:32

What if the more fun I have, the more money I make? That's always card. And then on the bottom is what if I trust my path?

SPEAKER_01: 58:42

That's pertinent to our conversation earlier about trusting that your your gifts are like normal and natural, that you're you're not doing it wrong, that you're on your path, even if it doesn't seem different yet, you know, the changes that you're you're working on are manifesting aren't appeared in front of your eyeballs.

SPEAKER_00: 59:00

Well, and you know, that's that's something that I really like to focus in on like it's my path, it's your path. Everybody has their own, and we're so quick to compare to other people's their path, their journey, their whatever, and really anchoring that back in. This is my path. I trust myself, I trust my path, I know that I'm being guided, and I'm heading in the direction that I'm meant to go in. My soul is experiencing the lessons it's meant to experience because it's my path. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 59:42

It's another tool in the toolbox that particularly if you're you know by yourself at home, like when no one's gonna hear you, if you're weirded out by other people listening to you talk like this, you know. But it's like I feel like we all need those reminders. So, like telling yourself helps ingrain it in the subconscious to deepen those the guru to make this like this is a normal natural thing. I'm on my path, I'm not doing it wrong. This is you know part of my journey. And my journey's different than other people's. Yeah, because we're all different. One of the interesting things that I channeled was that we are sparks of source, which I thought was really, really cool, and that part of what I do is as a prism of source, I reflect, I don't normally talk like this, which we can probably attest. Yeah, but as a prism of source, I reflect the glory of God so that people can recognize and feel that in themselves. And I thought that was really cool because I will pretty consistently get prisms and rainbows and reflections popping up either in my free life, or someone will like say that, or it'll pop up as an image or something, and it's pretty cool to keep getting open.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:57

That's beautiful. Sparks of source, huh?

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:00

We're little sparks of source. I love that. Then we're we're little fractals, we're all made up of source.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:07

Yeah. Well, are there any final words you would like to share before we talk about how people can connect with you?

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:16

Well, I did want to thank you for having me on again. This is a lot of fun, and I'm I'm glad that you asked. It's so funny that you reached out because I had this pain. I feel like Kevin and I should reconnect, but I don't know what we're gonna talk about yet. And I don't know when we're gonna have this. I don't know if she even wants me to come back on for another round. Yes, of course. Should I reach out to her? And then I was like, I'll let it be for now. And then you reached out and and flat it out, like, hey, do you want to come back on? And I was like, Oh, yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:45

I love that. I love that. It's a pleasure. I'm so thankful that you were open to coming back on, and it is always a wonderful time having a chat with you. I always learn so much and I know that everyone always appreciates the conversation.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:01

Inspiring for everybody. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:04

I think it helps to also just kind of normalize, you know, their their gifts and they are part of who we are, you know, and that's so important. When you can accept that ownership, I guess, it kind of maybe makes it feel, I don't know, better. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:22

The the phrase love your weird self came to mind. Yes. And that in the best way, like I'm weird, you're weird, but like the cute, fun, lovable, wonderful type of weird. Yeah. Like we're unique. And that makes us wonderful magical beings, you know?

SPEAKER_00: 1:02:38

Absolutely. Absolutely. So if people would like to connect with you or have a healing with you, what is the best way for them to connect?

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:49

Connect is you can catch me on my professional social medias. It's Opel Aura Healing on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook. And I'm happy to answer questions or you can, you know, catch my content and do the stuff I talk about.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:08

And connect and connect to book a healing with you, which would be amazing because they are absolutely magical. I highly recommend them.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:16

Yep. You're welcome to help me for uh healing. I do groups, I can do a one-on-one. So you can just let me know which you prefer, or you could do both. Excellent.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:26

And I will make sure that all of your links are in the show description so that people can connect with you. Yeah, thank you so much for coming back, and I really appreciate it. And I'm sure we will do this again another time as well. It's so fun.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:43

I'm very curious in an excited way what we're gonna talk about for the next session. Because I have no idea until it's like closer.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:52

Yeah, I'm sure we'll come up with something really juicy.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:55

Yay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:56

I love the juicy conversations. Juicy conversations are the best for sure. They are. Thank you so much, Belle. I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:06

Thank you for having me. Have a wonderful rest of your day. Thank you. You too. Thank you.